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Mumsnet can be really quite an unpleasant place these days it used to be so supportive and fun.

87 replies

Youdoyoubabe · 08/03/2023 16:39

I don't really go on Twitter but I gather it can be vicious.

Mumsnet was so helpful and also used to have me rolling on the floor laughing at times. I guess I am just being nostalgic. I still like a little wanter around the active threads near to knocking off work time but it usually just makes me feel a little bit sad about the world now.

I know we don't tend to like it when people have a different opinion from us but I don't think we need to be nasty. I have some unusual opinions at times but try to put them across politely but there is no tolerance for differing opinions at all.

Feeling a bit blue. Might need a session on Netmums to even it out.

This might be my last post if I come back and have been fully roasted for saying this but hey, life moves on I guess.

OP posts:
Maverickess · 08/03/2023 16:59

In all honesty I think it's a bit reflective of life at the moment, many people seem to be so confrontational and determined to make someone else feel miserable for the sake of it, like a power trip or something.

Oblomov23 · 08/03/2023 17:00

Yawn. Boring. There's similar posts regularly. I've been here 18 years and I still like it. It's still as supportive and as funny.

LobeliaBaggins · 08/03/2023 17:01

Exasperatednow · 08/03/2023 16:58

I've been here a long time too and am getting to the point where my youngest is nearly finished school.

Is the culture of the next generation of parents different?

I do find that post-pandemic and with the CoL crisis, people are exhausted, anxious, and there is competition over who has it worst. It comes to a head on social media.

Againstmachine · 08/03/2023 17:05

Nah it's always been like this.

The problem is people post in AIBU for traffic, but don't like responses, there is usually a specific forum for what they ask but they want 'traffic' then you get what you sow.

MeganTheeScallion · 08/03/2023 17:07

Always makes me eye-roll/laugh when people who don't use Twitter shudder about how awful it must be. It can be wonderful, just like MN. It can be arse, just like MN. Don't be scared of it and don't use it if you don't want to, it's okay.

Twitter, MN, your newfangled forum, Reddit, wherever...they'll have peaks and troughs, good and bad, relevant and irrelevant (to you). If somewhere is getting you down, log off for a little bit and come back if it tickles your fancy.

If MN exists in 2033, there'll be threads reminiscing about now. That's life.

LobeliaBaggins · 08/03/2023 17:08

Againstmachine · 08/03/2023 17:05

Nah it's always been like this.

The problem is people post in AIBU for traffic, but don't like responses, there is usually a specific forum for what they ask but they want 'traffic' then you get what you sow.

I will leave rather than ever post in AIBU! But as I said, the sub-forums are full of lovely, kind, funny people. Money seems to be a very tricky subject these days, but then it is so even in real life.

Neededanewuserhandle · 08/03/2023 17:21

Oblomov23 · 08/03/2023 17:00

Yawn. Boring. There's similar posts regularly. I've been here 18 years and I still like it. It's still as supportive and as funny.

^This. Some wonk posts this exact thing most weeks. It isn't true that MN is "nastier" in my opinion.

MokaEfti · 08/03/2023 17:31

What is the new forum? I've not seen any mention of it.

AffIt · 08/03/2023 17:33

watcherintherye · 08/03/2023 16:52

I think there ought to be a flounders corner for those who feel that they’re out of their depth on MN!

Or people who really like flat fish?

fUNNYfACE36 · 08/03/2023 17:43

I've been on MN since my 21 year old was born and its always been savage

Loics · 08/03/2023 17:53

I posted an innocent thread about 8 years ago now, on a long-forgotten username, and got absolutely ripped to shreds. It did just make me laugh as I can't take random people on the Internet having a go for something trivial all that seriously, but that was almost a decade ago and people were still vicious at times.

Mysterian · 08/03/2023 18:00

Stay off Chat. Stay off AIBU. Don't ask people if you calling your child Toastina is a good idea.
The rest of Mumsnet is fine.

Barnstormaway787 · 08/03/2023 18:08

I hear what you are saying op and agree but there have been quite a number of these threads recently where the op posts this opinion and then fails to respond after that. It’s beginning to look quite suspicious, like an organised campaign to undermine the site.

I apologise sincerely if your post is genuine, but I want to make clear that although Mumsnet has changed and there are a lot of unnecessarily nasty posts, there are still some places on the site which are very supportive and helpful and Mumsnet is one of the few places left where women’s voices can be heard unfiltered through other media, and that’s really, really important.

Plus I think it is up to the posters who value the site to call out nasty comments a bit more than previously and I think that is starting to happen.

Enthrallingstoryofstillness · 08/03/2023 18:11

Blueberrywitch · 08/03/2023 16:49

You’re not wrong, sometimes I stumble across a thread from 2011 or something and they are SO lovely! Everyone also seems to know each other and refer to each other by usernames which is nice. I’m sure there were still bad ones like the above mentioned by PP.

People especially on AIBU can be so vile to each other and the OP! One of my threads pondering a thought I had about a current event got so extreme it was deleted which I was very pleased about as it meant I didn’t need to check the replies and feel stressed anymore 😂

At the same time, mumsnet is one of the coolest places on the internet to read about the varied ins and outs of human lives! So it is still good on balance.

I wonder if an upvote/downvote button on comments would be a good idea so that we are able to police impolite comments better. But then you might end up with less discussion as people vote instead of comment and try to get “karma” like on reddit.

The best thing we can do is police each other and call out unnecessary rudeness/personal attacks when we see them.

Mmmm... I've been on here for 19 years and the cliqueness of everyone back then saying hello to each other was very much to the detriment of the invisibles who weren't part of the gang. It's just different now

Enthrallingstoryofstillness · 08/03/2023 18:14

Loics · 08/03/2023 17:53

I posted an innocent thread about 8 years ago now, on a long-forgotten username, and got absolutely ripped to shreds. It did just make me laugh as I can't take random people on the Internet having a go for something trivial all that seriously, but that was almost a decade ago and people were still vicious at times.

Same happened to me a decade ago, I dared to walk my dog through a field of sheep and a demented farmer let off a shotgun over my head, the amount of folk defending the farmer was unreal! I was very calm but I still remember it. Certainly wasn't all sweetness and light back then !

AllOfThemWitches · 08/03/2023 18:38

Mysterian · 08/03/2023 18:00

Stay off Chat. Stay off AIBU. Don't ask people if you calling your child Toastina is a good idea.
The rest of Mumsnet is fine.

Thanks for the inspiration, Toastina is a great name.

Twisting · 08/03/2023 18:56

Nope. Always been like this. I remember some proper twats around in about 2009/10. It was more cliquey too, with the same names jumping on to every thread and feeling every so slightly smug because they spent all their time on an online forum and knew people here.

Kittlbua · 08/03/2023 19:39

One thing I have noticed recently is MRAs and incels popping up on threads - often on AIBU or relationships and victim-blaming OPs as well as gas-lighting them and saying things like "If this was a man posting" MN would be saying the opposite. They usually show up when an OP is posting about difficulties in a relationship with a man, often abusive relationships, pushing their own agenda. They need cracking down on. I can think of 3 usernames off hand which I suspect belong to MRAs and incels.

EmmaEmerald · 08/03/2023 19:47

I've been here a long time
one of my earliest posts was about Brexit and I got told off by loads off posters for making up a stupid word! 😂😂

apart from that, it was pretty nice. Now it's...different.

Riapia · 08/03/2023 19:50

Ah the wonderful days when it was all fields.
Then the estates were built. We all knew where that would lead.

UdoU · 08/03/2023 19:58

Twas ever thus.

This might be my last post

There is a Flouncer’s Corner if you’r interested.

ScentOfAMemory · 08/03/2023 20:00

Enthrallingstoryofstillness · 08/03/2023 18:11

Mmmm... I've been on here for 19 years and the cliqueness of everyone back then saying hello to each other was very much to the detriment of the invisibles who weren't part of the gang. It's just different now

Yep. Like when the bat signal would go out and they'd all descend on a thread "well hellair you mwah mwah <insert random in-jokes that nobody knew what the fuck they were on about>"

Youdoyoubabe · 08/03/2023 20:01

butterfliedtwo · 08/03/2023 16:50

Any minute now

What is the new site? I don’t go on here that much so not seen.

OP posts:
Youdoyoubabe · 08/03/2023 20:03

AllOfThemWitches · 08/03/2023 18:38

Thanks for the inspiration, Toastina is a great name.

Good answer thanks!

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BlueSpark · 08/03/2023 20:12

I think it peaks and troughs as I regularly have to take a break because I'm out off by the meanness, then I come back and it's fine until it isn't.

Everyone is getting more entitled and less patient I find.

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