They cannot just change everything like this surely ?

[Noangelbuthavingfun]

Never thought I'd be in this situation. Been with company 23 months...April 10th will be 2 years. No issues till November just gone. Have a global role. Got promoted in October. Jan a new dotted line boss was introduced... they are a contractor only and due to status we cannot report into them on the system hence dotted line. They sit in a different country.
Fast forward this week ànd have just been shown a new org chart with my role effectively still there but now given to a person I manage. No discussion with me by either boss. Other roles on org chart some with names but none with my name on. Been told don't worry we will tell u where you fit in.... Real boss not present, HR not present, no forewarning and no follow up. No job spec...nothing.
Effectively my role still exists but in a different country (peer role still exists with name on chart in same country) so they cannot claim a business reason.
Previous soft discussion mentioned flippantly with dotted line boss /contractor that they want me to do more business development type work.. That's not my role today nor something I want to do. Nothing since until this org chart. My actual manager has not even spoken to me about this chart or changes....

My question is this : they cannot change my Role without consultation can they ? Its effectively a demotion in my view as no other role on org chart is the same as mine ... no HR or job description...etc.
Where do I stand? What are my next steps to protect myself ?

AIBU to want a fair and equitable option with a clear job description and reasoning for the changes plus an option of redundancy if its not what I want to do?Surely this is what the process should be?
Or do I have to suck it up and let them do what they want without any process followed? (I've been through redundancy before and it was handled entirely differently)

Looking for some guidance from employment law experts AND / OR experiences any of you may have been through..

Thanks @Noangelbuthavingfun I’ve been lucky in hindsight as I’ve spent most of my career in great teams. This one clashes with my values and almost broke me. I’m through that part as it’s become so extreme it’s clearly not personal - anyone being in my place would have experienced the same. I have total clarity that the job I loved no longer exists and I’m making my exit plan while my poker face is in place. I’ll be honest, being bullied for the first time age 40 has been a massive shock. I’ve learned a lot about who I am. I believe I will be a better leader in the long run but that won’t come until I’ve left this toxic situation. Good luck!

Speak to ACAS.

Op… do you actually have any work to do atm?

Omg I could have written this....I too feel like the values here are so oug of synch with mine and new leadership are so far removed from how to treat people it's unreal. I haven't figured out how to do the pokerface no emotion yet and it's draining me and demotivating.... I don't care that a structure is changing - I do care how its handled and fair process. Good luck and hugs... I hope I can get where you are too x

I thought if they re-organise the structure like this they at least need to give people ople the chance to apply for those jobs you describe. Even if it means people applying for their own jobs. Seems they can do what they like these days. Are there to be redundancies?

I am still doing the role at the moment but in dark on when it changes, to what, etc. Only seen a structure if that's what u meant

Exactly ! That would be fair process right? Nothing said....think the person is clueless. In the meantime they have alienated me and others and thoroughly demotivated us

In the meantime they have alienated me and others and thoroughly demotivated us

Are others in the
same boat? I would be relieved at that not just me at least!

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@Noangelbuthavingfun are there others not on the chart or just you?

Keep your head down and smile sweetly until you get into April, and you have been there two years.
Get your CV up to date and start making discreet enquiries about other jobs. Start networking discreetly if that’s possible.
Think of anything you might need to get out of the office in case you have to leave suddenly…
Its horrible but be prepared as much as you can

I find that really odd that they’d not meet with you to discuss where your job lies and that they’ve effectively sidelined you.
Because it’s been under 2 years, they can let you go at any time. It seems like a deliberate attempt to get rid of you and others. Very unprofessional and I’d be thinking of changing jobs.

I think if your notice period would take you over the two years then you’re already protected by the two year employment service rule. Not sure how much that protection might be worth but probably worth knowing.

Raised in passing on a global team call...half the team wasn't even there. No timescales mentioned whatsoever. Just said this will take a while to implement and if u don't see your name on here don't worry I will get round to telling u where u fit

That’s spectacularly bad management. I’d never show an org chart to my team that wasn’t finalized and certainly wouldn’t do it with some names filled in and others not. Especially when there are going to be some role swaps or changes.

Surely a complete role change/demotion without consultation is constructive dismissal? You have to act quickly if you want to claim it though.

www.davidsonmorris.com/constructive-dismissal-examples/#:~:text=What%20is%20the%20test%20for,not%20for%20some%20other%20reason.

Sometimes organisations do this as a way of saving on redundancy payouts as people will now start looking for other jobs.

It always amazes me though as usually the people that cling on are ones that wouldn't get other jobs, they lose their best people doing this. I've seen it many times.

Get in a union. Quick. They will provide advice, give legal support etc. Every working person needs to be in a union, it's worth its weight in gold. Doesn't matter how junior or senior you are!

Unfortunately this isn't an option...don't even think all companies have them. Never offered or told about it - Could be wrong...

@AlisonDonut That's what I thought but the 2 year mark is tricky and nothing in writing so in the dark...Will seek legal advice from acas and see. Thanks for all the responses to date !

You mention that others In Same boat

are they also all on probation?

UK Contract is going to work to a massive advantage here, thankfully.

None of us are on probation....all far beyond that. I'm the only one in UK. Most are over 2 years service
Others dotted around all over globe

Beyond being omitted from the structure, do you actually have a role. As in are you working? Working? With responsibilities and deadlines etc?

I always regard the first two years as a form of probation given how weak employee rights are during this time

Yes I am ! Until someone tells me to stop lol