I want to move back home

[Wanttomovebackhome]

I want to come home…to England
I want to raise my Dd, in the British culture.
I want to feel at home and not find everything so hard.
People think I'm nuts to even consider it at the moment.
Am I? Is England really that bad?

Phew. Just popped on to make sure op wasn't one of my dc....

@Snoken ah I love Stockholm - been many times -

We came back from Copenhagen 10 months ago for practical reasons to do with elderly parent, work related stuff etc - we are very lucky to live in Bath - where we lived before moving and I still have friends here who I missed- so I don't regret those aspects- but it's not hard to see that lifestyle wise Copenhagen was great . Stuff just worked, the politics was extremely consensual and there didn't seem to be the same amount of feral idiots about or aggression. It was all just rather more 'ordered' . I do get that wouldn't suit everyone. It was expensive too but we knew that and many things were no different to UK price wise.

You’re not nuts, and the UK is still great in lots of ways, but it’s noticeably not as good as it was - basically due to inflated housing costs, chronic underfunding of everything compounded by difficult economic conditions.

I moved back to the UK from Portugal 20 years ago, I don't regret it despite how bad things are here

I've lived in other countries, Middle East probably the worst but I find it hard to find anywhere I'd rather be than the UK.

But I live in a nice market town in Oxfordshire so it's hard to fin anything to complain about (apart from our government and the shite opposition)

I don't live in the UK but people do keep telling me (unasked) that I should definitely not come back to live there and it's all going to pot. @Wanttomovebackhome if you are getting the same feedback as me I'm not surprised at your post and your question. More generally, I am at home where I live, speak the language and so on, but you clearly aren't and I do think that is a good enough reason to move back to the UK.

@1984Winston Whereabouts, out of interest? How did you find it there?

@TaRaDeBumDeAy Ww3? Where are you out of interest? So you wouldn’t return from a safety point of view?

Clue.

Thousands of people are risking their lives in unseaworthy boats every day trying to get away from the EU shithole.
Come back home you won’t regret it.

You've drunk the conservative kool aid on that one. Far more people ask for asylum in France than seek to cross the channel. Even the Conservative government isn't trying to peddle your little invention there. How embarrassing.

@Riapia Yep Copenhagen was such a shithole when we lived there compared to say Luton!!! NOT

That is not why they come here- it's because many have relatives or friends here and are fed the boloney by gangs on the make that it's easy to get stuff or work on the black market .

I think many people think life is so much better everywhere else. It’s an affliction. But that is most definitely not the case; every country has its issues.
The U.K. in my view is a safe and beautiful country, and we love living here. We have lived overseas for years so we can directly compare. Nowhere is perfect but there is nowhere quite like home in my experience.

That is not what Macron said! He said we should be less generous and cut welfare etc and not make ‘England’ so attractive to migrants.

The UK isn’t that bad. Other countries are going through hard times too. Huge general strike in France. Nurses striking in Western Australia. Public sector strikes in Germany and Italy.

It’s annoying that some of our problems are brexit inflicted, though.

Copenhagen is a well known shithole @Crikeyalmighty. People are swimming the channel I'm sure just to get away from the nightmare.

I moved from Nz 5 years ago for education and family - education has been great, family not so - wish we had never done it x

I've lived in the UK all my life but travel regularly to Europe and the US for work. I was gutted by the Brexit vote and do think the UK has visibly declined in recent years, but still consider it home and wouldn't leave because of the decline. I love it for the people, the culture, the humour, the history. In general I am not patriotic, but I do feel an unfamiliar sense of loyalty on this point. I have been privileged to grow up in a wealthy country with the NHS, decent state schools, public services, etc. and now that I am a professional adult who has benefitted from these things I feel the right thing to do is to stay and contribute.

I am not judging and would move for practical reasons or family - they just don't apply in my case.

Things are absolutely not as good as they were 10 years ago or something but there are still many positives. When I look at the news from my home country (EU country), the headlines are exactly the same as here: lack of doctors, long waiting lists for NHS equivalent, doctors leaving, pension age increasing, strikes all around for pay rises so it wouldn't be all plain sailing moving back. Actually it's fair to say our quality of life would be worse over there.

Depends on where you move back to tbh. I had to move from my home town within the U.K. because the local school started banning Christmas plays in case they offended another religion and most of the dc couldn't speak English. My friend taught there and said she spent most of her time trying to stop tribal wars within the classroom and many of the dc couldn't understand what she was saying.
The area itself also became more and more dangerous.

In my new area it's almost like moving back to the U.K. I know. So be wary that many parts of the U.K. have changed and not necessarily for the better.

What's your point?
Let me be clear on mine: It is very stupid to say that people are getting in boats in order to leave the EU by their thousands because it is a shithole, when many, many more ask for asylum in France than try to cross.

Didn't Dorothy click her heels and say "there's no place like home" and she meant Kansas - but it's a sentiment most ex-pats feel from time to time no matter where they come from.

I'm always slightly bemused by these threads. The UK is always talked about as if the quality of life is the same everywhere.

If your budget is only going to extend to a small house on a run down estate in a depressed part of the UK your experience of 'moving back to the UK' is going to be somewhat different to someone moving to a spacious house in an affluent town.

I love the UK, but I'm quite aware that if I lived somewhere not as nice as the house and town I live in I might be desperate to try somewhere abroad too.

Having lived in many countries i can say the U.K is a great place to live (excluding London)

They're not escaping the EU. They're crossing it to get to the UK where they have contacts.