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To put up a sign saying that something is NOT for sale?

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WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 04/03/2023 15:36

We keep our caravan on our drive. It's old-ish and is due a bit of a clean, but it in no way looks ramshackle or dilapidated - just an average caravan of the sort that average people use to go on average caravan holidays.

We regularly get people coming to our door, knocking and disturbing what we're doing and asking if it's for sale. I've just had one now. Most of them don't even ask if we would be interested in selling it, but just presumptuously ask if it 'is for sale', which irritates me even more.

If people want to buy a caravan, there are several caravan dealerships around, as well as the thousands of listings online where people are offering their caravans for sale. There's also the well-trodden effective path of posting a 'caravan wanted' advert themselves.

Nobody has ever come to the door and asked if our house is for sale. Nobody has ever stopped me in the street and asked if my coat is for sale. So why this? Do they really think that we're so stupid that we would have something that we're hoping to sell, but not even think to maybe indicate that in any way to potential buyers?

Should we put up an unsightly sign on it saying 'NOT for sale'? Is it normal to expect that everything (on somebody's private property - obviously not talking about in a shop) IS for sale, unless notified otherwise? I'm also mindful of the fact that the only people who usually notice/bother to read signs stating what should be stinking obvious are the sensible ones who don't need them and to whom it IS stinking obvious, and so must be left wondering why anybody would put up that sign in the first place - so it may be pointless anyway.

Does this regularly happen to other people? Any experiences or suggestions as to what might work?!

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JustRingJoeDuffy · 04/03/2023 17:20

I'd put up a sign saying Caravan Sold.
They'd be more likely to read it and not bother with trying to persuade you to sell it.

Ionlydrinkondaysendinginy · 04/03/2023 17:21

I personally think it might make it worse as people have a really bad habit of not reading things properly and will not read not for and only see the word sale. Its like when shops say upto 75% off and they miss the upto part

SoShallINever · 04/03/2023 17:25

We have them asking to buy our house 😂

Oldnproud · 04/03/2023 17:27

Our neighbour two doors down used to have an old caravan in front of his house. Quite regularly, when we were in the front garden, people in old vans would pull up and asked us if it was for sale, even though it clearly wasn't ours. I know you can't always judge a book by its cover, but they always seemed quite dodgy characters and we were quite relieved when the owner finally got rid of it.

MrsWojadobakowsky · 04/03/2023 17:33

TrickorTreacle · 04/03/2023 16:49

@AndrexPuppy - it's only racist if the OP was bashing travellers (gypsies), not travelling showmen who work for the circus or fairground. I see the OP as bashing people in general for making a wrong assumption. So I would keep politics out of this thread.

@WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll - love your user name! I would get a door sign that says "STOP! No cold callers, no canvassers, no sales people, no religious bodies. Please leave and do not return". Tonnes of examples from Google, and you can get them on Amazon/eBay.

Re: door signs. I had one as we were plagued by people wanting to cut down the neighbours trees, tarmac the drive, render the house, jetwash the roof and sign us up to direct debits for anything they could think of.

I do believe that most of them were up themselves and thought they were special and it didn't apply to them/told they had to pester people until they gave in, or unable to read either at all or English in particular. On that basis I told the chuggers where to put the paperwork and shut the door and simply said no thank you to the ones that were offering services. I did lose it once, to a woman trying to sign me up for rendering of the front of the house and she retreated very quickly. I was also amused by to the delivery guy who saw the sign and phoned someone to ask what it meant before dumping the package on the step and leaving, only thing was, the sign said 'Please do not leave deliveries on the step'.

In short, it probably won't deter many of them.

CpnTomChandlersFanClub · 04/03/2023 17:39

I'm really surprised as some of the naivety on this thread. This is very obviously criminal's casing the joint

It won't matter if you put up a sign because what they ask will just change. They are looking at the property with an eye to burglarly and testing whether anyone is in, learning what time of of day and so on.

If someone answers the door they need to say something vaguely plausible that you won't take them up on so

  • is a non-delipadated car or caravan for sale
  • do you want the drive tarmacing (if it obviously doesn't)
  • are you looking for a fencer (if it obviously doesn't need repair).
  • would you like your front door or windows changing (if they obviously don't).
furryfrontbottom · 04/03/2023 17:39

Yes, you can have it for half a million pounds but only if you have the cash on you.

BobcatDreams · 04/03/2023 17:41

That would drive me up the wall but then I am quite reclusive when I get home. Good for you with the hedgerow, wildlife needs all the help they can get.
I would put up a "No cold callers" sign.

Moraxella · 04/03/2023 17:46

As @Neighneigh said I’d make sure it was locked well as there’s clearly a lot of interest in it.

OneTC · 04/03/2023 17:48

Disagree that it's gonna certainly be people casing the place.

You've got something that is attractive to a certain type of person that knocks and asks for things of interest to them, caravans, scrap looking vehicles, scrap metal etc. Have any of these outside your house in the area where I live and you'll have a constant stream of interest

OneTC · 04/03/2023 17:50

Oldnproud · 04/03/2023 17:27

Our neighbour two doors down used to have an old caravan in front of his house. Quite regularly, when we were in the front garden, people in old vans would pull up and asked us if it was for sale, even though it clearly wasn't ours. I know you can't always judge a book by its cover, but they always seemed quite dodgy characters and we were quite relieved when the owner finally got rid of it.

Yeah our old neighbour used to have an old landy outside and they used to ask us if they could have it 😂

After ages of being knocked back one day they just rocked up and stole it

KatyKlanger · 04/03/2023 17:55

Put a sign in the front window saying "For a sale, see the Panda" - with an arrow pointing to a massive cuddly Panda.

In the Panda's lap, put a smaller sign with something rude on it. eg "You're a XXXX"

GoodChat · 04/03/2023 17:55

KatyKlanger · 04/03/2023 17:55

Put a sign in the front window saying "For a sale, see the Panda" - with an arrow pointing to a massive cuddly Panda.

In the Panda's lap, put a smaller sign with something rude on it. eg "You're a XXXX"

Do people really do this shit?

LittlePinkPill · 04/03/2023 17:59

A house near us has a sign in the caravan window saying that it’s not for sale, presumably they had the same problem at one time.

It makes me chuckle a bit whenever I pass it as it hasn’t moved in a decade, is covered in green growth and I can’t imagine anyone wanting to buy it now.

BillyDeanisnotmylover · 04/03/2023 18:07

I’m confused, if it annoys you, why haven’t you already put a sign in the caravan window saying ‘Not for sale’?
Or even ‘Not for sale. And we don’t need our hedges cut either. But thanks for your interest.’

Honeyroar · 04/03/2023 18:12

Wish some one would knock on the door and buy our old caravan. Send them to us!

Oldnproud · 04/03/2023 18:13

LittlePinkPill · 04/03/2023 17:59

A house near us has a sign in the caravan window saying that it’s not for sale, presumably they had the same problem at one time.

It makes me chuckle a bit whenever I pass it as it hasn’t moved in a decade, is covered in green growth and I can’t imagine anyone wanting to buy it now.

Believe me, our neighbour's caravan that I mentioned upthread ended up exactly like the one you have described, but it was still attracting a lot of would-be buyers!

sueelleker · 04/03/2023 18:47

MrsWojadobakowsky · 04/03/2023 17:33

Re: door signs. I had one as we were plagued by people wanting to cut down the neighbours trees, tarmac the drive, render the house, jetwash the roof and sign us up to direct debits for anything they could think of.

I do believe that most of them were up themselves and thought they were special and it didn't apply to them/told they had to pester people until they gave in, or unable to read either at all or English in particular. On that basis I told the chuggers where to put the paperwork and shut the door and simply said no thank you to the ones that were offering services. I did lose it once, to a woman trying to sign me up for rendering of the front of the house and she retreated very quickly. I was also amused by to the delivery guy who saw the sign and phoned someone to ask what it meant before dumping the package on the step and leaving, only thing was, the sign said 'Please do not leave deliveries on the step'.

In short, it probably won't deter many of them.

My front door opens outwards, and I've got THREE signs at different heights saying so. I still get parcels dumped on the doormat.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 04/03/2023 20:28

So once a month someone rings asks if your fairly average caravan is for sale. You say no, shut the door and you’re apparently totally complexed , unsure if you should put a sign and wish to ask mumsnet why folks don’t offer to buy your coat.

alright.

Feel free to ignore any threads that don't interest you or seem worthy of your attention.

I presume you've never had anybody at your door trying to buy or sell something if you think that they all happily accept you saying No without trying to persuade you, sometimes in quite a threatening way. The kind of person who will just go on to somebody's private property and randomly expect to buy anything that catches their eye isn't usually the sort to respect other people's boundaries.

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WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 04/03/2023 20:58

I'd just say "no it's not for sale" it's hardly causing a huge issue is it?

No, as issues go, it isn’t huge; but when you work from home, as well as having
mobility issues, why wouldn’t it be an irritant having one of these every week wanting to buy or sell something or other?

If it were an isolated incident, I wouldn’t care; but everybody seems to think they’re the only one doing it.

It’s not unreasonable for them to ask if it looks like you don’t use it and they could get it at an affordable price and make use of it.

Really? How can you so easily determine that somebody doesn’t make use of a caravan that’s parked on their drive, especially in the winter? We actually do deliberately position it next to our front garden and use it as an extension of our garden, as it happens.

Maybe they do think that, but I consider it seriously boundary-crossing to disturb a stranger at home, just so that you can have a slight chance of getting a bargain from them by buying something that they’ve given no indication that they want to sell.

It’s a more intrusive version of telephone cold-calling, and they don’t tend to be welcomed by anybody, in my experience. Just a subtle way of treating other people that you don’t even know like their time doesn’t matter in the least and that they’re basically only there to possibly make your own life nicer.

I personally think it might make it worse as people have a really bad habit of not reading things properly and will not read not for and only see the word sale. Its like when shops say upto 75% off and they miss the upto part

Yes, this is a concern of ours. As most people never bother to read signs properly anyway, I could well imagine aggressive people trying to pressure us to sell it to them, because it says ‘for sale’ on it, even though there’s a clear NOT in front of it. I can see that kind of person accusing us of wasting their time, purely because they didn’t bother reading a sign that we put up to stop them from wasting ours (although just ignoring both a stranger’s caravan AND the sign would obviously be the preferred option for everybody).

As @Neighneigh said I’d make sure it was locked well as there’s clearly a lot of interest in it.

Yes, I think some people on this thread – and many IRL – don’t seem to see it as anything more than a polite offer and a quick declension – as if I were running a market stall. It’s all the thought of an entitled person eyeing up your possessions, coming on to your property, the intrusion, the not wanting to accept No and then the concern that they may try to steal it anyway, or deliberately damage it as ‘revenge’ for being turned down.

We have some security measures on it, but we are looking to beef them up.

I’m confused, if it annoys you, why haven’t you already put a sign in the caravan window saying ‘Not for sale’?
Or even ‘Not for sale. And we don’t need our hedges cut either. But thanks for your interest.’

As above, partly because the people for whom you have to put up signs usually don’t bother to read (or take notice of) them anyway; and more so, because (ironically) the existence of a sign mentioning an item and ‘for sale’ somewhere on it might be taken by them as an invitation to come and do exactly what you’ve asked them not to do.

I think we probably will have to put up a very clear sign, though. Definitely on/by the door, rather than on the caravan itself.

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Reugny · 04/03/2023 21:01

Put a "SOLD" sign on it.

Fossie · 04/03/2023 21:02

I’d worry someone will steal it. We had the same with an old car on the drive. People often asking what we wanted for it. One day it just went. We were in the house at the time and didn’t hear or see a thing.

OnaBegonia · 04/03/2023 22:04

Give the caravan a wash, if it's scruffy looking it probably encourages the hope of a cheap sale.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 04/03/2023 23:36

Put a "SOLD" sign on it.

I see the reasoning, but the problem with that is that it confirms to them that we do want to sell it; and as it's still not been collected, chancers will see it as their perfect opportunity to swoop in and outbid and/or convince us to sell to them instead of the agreed buyer. Plus, if it's still there when they next come around, still saying 'sold', that kind of gives the game away.

Give the caravan a wash, if it's scruffy looking it probably encourages the hope of a cheap sale.

It's not really that bad; but even if it were, that still takes us back again to the audacity of their presumptuous behaviour. I don't accept that it's up to us to keep something in perfect condition in order to be allowed to keep it unhassled.

Regardless of condition (for its age), I do rather suspect that these people would be looking to insist that they are 'experts' in the field and that it just so happens to be nigh on worthless - even that they are doing us a favour by taking it off our hands.

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WandaWonder · 04/03/2023 23:49

I would stick a 1mill price tag on it and wait for the offers

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