Hrmc- child national insurance number- dd doesnt exist?

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Dd turned 17 last month and we still haven't had her National insurance number.
I've phoned hrmc a number of times but they don't seem to be able to find her. She doesn't have a passport so can't show who she is. We have a birth certificate and claimed child benefit.
Going round in circles.

Anyone else had this?

Have you ever claimed child benefit for her? Perhaps try them to make sure she’s been recorded properly? Also this:

www.gov.uk/apply-national-insurance-number

Did you register her at birth? She should have a Child Trust Fund, and I understand the HMRC reference number for that is the same as the NI number.

Does she have a child trust fund? part of that number is your NI number I believe.

I had this!!! I even had a passport and everything but they insisted that I didn’t exist. It went on for two years before they suddenly just found me one day and everything was fine and normal and I was given my national insurance number. No advice unfortunately because nothing I tried worked. At one point they threatened to deport me!

Did your child have a Child Trust Fund?
The unique reference number on that is the NI number

Where were they going to send you?

We registered her. We got child benefit for her up till she was 17. No idea where her children trust fund info went.Moved house last year as well

Are they aware you moved. I would phone again and ask to speak to a manager.

Her national insurance number will be on correspondence from child benefit. Do you still have anything from them?

Your National Insurance Number essentially (although its a little bit more complicated) comes from the Child Benefit claim.

Did you claim child benefit for your DD?

The other problem that can occur is if your DD has changed names. Have you or your DD changed her name over the years? Either her first name or surname? This can cause problems sending out the NINO

That was my first question too - the letter just said “country of origin”. I still have the letter somewhere - it was a wild time.

You'll need to find her Child Trust Fund info so she can claim it once she is 18. It's on there.

We've never claimed child benefit. Is this going to be an issue in a few years then? Is there something else I need to do together DC in the system? I assumed it came from registering the birth but I've never thought any more about it.

Would it be easier to try and speak to them about her child trust fund then? No idea where any documents are about that

You normally need the NI number to trace the Child trust fund.

@DappledThings why did you never claim CB? If there is a higher earner you can even make a claim but opt out of getting the payment

When she is nearly 16, you write to them and request a number if there isnt one already. You may need to send copies of relevant documents like birth certs or proof of address etc

www.gov.uk/child-trust-funds/find-a-child-trust-fund This is the link about CTF

@DappledThings why did you never claim CB? If there is a higher earner you can even make a claim but opt out of getting the payment
Didn't look into enough really I guess. Knew we would need to pay it back so just didn't claim it in the first place.

DC1 is only just 7 so sounds like we have a few years till we need to request a NI number but this is good info it won't come automatically. I had no idea.

Yabu for being so disorganised! Her CTF will have money in it which belongs to her.

Shamelessly place marking because I'm curious to see what happens!

If there is a low earner or non working parent then they should make a claim so that they get NI credits. You can opt out of Payment so there won't be anything to pay back.

Could have been quite useful that if you fancied emigrating 😅

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Thanks for the link to the child Trust fund. I've filled it in for the info. Let's hope it works.

Have you actually filled in the form from gov uk rather than just phoning?