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To think "crisis pregnancy centres" who mislead or lie to women should lose their charitable status?

22 replies

Anthillveggie · 28/02/2023 15:19

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64751800

Just finished watching the Panorama episode on these centres. They masquerade as giving impartial advice in pregnancy and abortion, but instead to things like tell women that they should feel guilty for having an abortion, tell them they will suffer from a made-up syndrome and pressure them into having an unnecessary ultrasound scan. How are they even allowed to operate?

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MrsTerryPratchett · 28/02/2023 15:20

They shouldn't just lose their charitable status.

Merryoldgoat · 28/02/2023 16:00

They should be banned.

TeamRR · 28/02/2023 16:05

It seems like the pro-life lobby in the US are slowly trying to get a foothold in the UK.

SinnerBoy · 28/02/2023 16:05

100% answered in the first two posts.

Lockheart · 28/02/2023 16:19

The problem is that damn near anyone can set themselves up as a counsellor or therapist with very little regulation.

Therefore any loon with an agenda can set up a "pregnancy crisis support" website / centre, give whatever half-baked advice they like, and still be within UK law.

I am glad the Charity Commission is looking in to some of them. I hope there is a provision in the Charities law somewhere which means their status can be removed. Ideally they should be shut down totally, but presently they are not operating illegally.

phoenixrosehere · 28/02/2023 16:21

TeamRR · 28/02/2023 16:05

It seems like the pro-life lobby in the US are slowly trying to get a foothold in the UK.

What makes you think they weren’t already here?

Naunet · 28/02/2023 17:05

It’s disgusting and shouldn’t be legal.

TeamRR · 28/02/2023 18:41

phoenixrosehere · 28/02/2023 16:21

What makes you think they weren’t already here?

Not saying they weren't, just that it seems to be getting more prevalent in recent years.

Iam4eels · 28/02/2023 18:50

TeamRR · 28/02/2023 18:41

Not saying they weren't, just that it seems to be getting more prevalent in recent years.

The whole Row v Wade debacle in the US has emboldened the pro-life lobby into believing their views are acceptable and right.

SingleMumofOne95 · 28/02/2023 18:55

When I was a teenager I ended up pregnant in an abusive relationship, he tried to force me to get an abortion by making an appointment for me and then threatening me to go - I disclosed all of this in my appointment at one of these places - I was told ‘that’s just how things go sometimes’ and no more was said about it. I eventually kept my baby and got out of that relationship but they was actually going to do an abortion knowing it wasn’t what I wanted and I was being manipulated in it and was in a really vulnerable situation.

Marths · 28/02/2023 19:20

I saw this earlier, it made me so angry when the woman from the Tyneside centre told the reporter that she maybe shouldn't be around children if she had an abortion and she would never be able to tell her daughters. And then Standon trying to delay the woman's appointment so she wouldn't be allowed an abortion any more.

Iam4eels · 28/02/2023 19:37

Maybe we should all get together and go "pray" outside these centres, hold up banners showing women that they have options other than keeping a pregnancy they don't want, hand out leaflets extolling the virtues of choice. If it's good enough for the anti-choicers....

Iam4eels · 28/02/2023 19:43

Also Dr Chris Richards who runs the Tyneside one is also the director of an organisation called Love Wise. They provide free PSHE sex education lessons to schools however their materials state that being gay is a sin and immoral, that abstinence is the only acceptable state outside of marriage, that sex is for pregnancy, that girls who do not dress modestly are responsible for inciting lust in boys, and so on. They were due to come to my DCs school until we all kicked up a stink and got them uninvited.

GrumpyPanda · 28/02/2023 20:01

TeamRR · 28/02/2023 16:05

It seems like the pro-life lobby in the US are slowly trying to get a foothold in the UK.

They're not "pro-life". Anything but, really.

pointythings · 28/02/2023 20:08

They're forced birthers. Nothing more, nothing less. The way they advertise their services is deceptive and Google and other search engines are complicit.

Pootles34 · 28/02/2023 20:09

They were definitely around in 2000, probably earlier I would imagine.

FourTeaFallOut · 28/02/2023 20:17

Iam4eels · 28/02/2023 18:50

The whole Row v Wade debacle in the US has emboldened the pro-life lobby into believing their views are acceptable and right.

They can have whatever views and opinions they like but it should be illegal to hoodwink women with unwanted pregnancies into these centres which are ideologically opposed to abortion.

Good idea Iam4eels, I'd happily stand outside these centres with a placard in hand to ensure accurate signposting.

pointythings · 28/02/2023 21:06

I've just watched it, the lies from the centres are just breathtaking. I suspect the best way to counter this crap is to make sure that all women are taught a module as part of Sex and Relationship Education specifically on abortion , where it sits politically and the lies used by the antis to try and talk them out of it. It's basic biology and all women should be up to speed on it.

Anthillveggie · 01/03/2023 11:43

How can they get away with telling women they might develop a syndrome that doesn't exist?

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Marths · 02/03/2023 12:04

SingleMumofOne95 · 28/02/2023 18:55

When I was a teenager I ended up pregnant in an abusive relationship, he tried to force me to get an abortion by making an appointment for me and then threatening me to go - I disclosed all of this in my appointment at one of these places - I was told ‘that’s just how things go sometimes’ and no more was said about it. I eventually kept my baby and got out of that relationship but they was actually going to do an abortion knowing it wasn’t what I wanted and I was being manipulated in it and was in a really vulnerable situation.

If they were going to give you an abortion then it can't have been one of these centres.

SinnerBoy · 03/03/2023 11:31

GrumpyPanda · 28/02/2023 20:01

They're not "pro-life". Anything but, really.

They're pro foetus but after birth, "Guns, guns, guns! Jesus hates fags! Givvem the electric chair!" Such lovely Christian forgiveness.

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