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To say that World Book Day should be about BOOK characters?!

254 replies

mrsbn1988 · 21/02/2023 20:34

This is lighthearted .

But AIBU for getting an irrational rage that there are kids dressed up as Elsa or Moana or Marvel someone every WBD?

This stems from the fact that I've just been looking for a WBD costume from a well-known supermarket and spotted a Bluey costume. Now don't get me wrong - I LOVE Bluey, but Bluey was created for TV. Same as Peppa Pig.

I KNOW there are story books around that feature these characters, but they were originally created for TV or film, so they don't count.

And yes, characters like Harry Potter do, because they were originally book characters before the film adaptions.

I'm interested to hear other's opinions. Is World Book Day just becoming an excuse for kids to dress up in their favourite fancy dress outfit without actually thinking about the book element?!

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MyLordWizardKing · 21/02/2023 22:37

My son wants to go as Matilda. He loves the new film, but has absolutely no interest in the book when I read it to him.

Conversely, he hasn't watched Peppa Pig in years, but reads the books over and over again. So it would be more true to the spirit of WBD to send him in as someone from Peppa Pig rather than Matilda, but I know which costume would get the most judgement*!

(*Ignoring the judgment a small boy may get for dressing up as Matilda...)

MumDadBingoBlueyy · 21/02/2023 22:39

my little girl has to decorate a plate for WBD and im
so glad that’s the case as I couldn’t justify buying her a costume for £15-20 to be worn once. Her favourite book is Press Here by Hervé Tullet which would have been incredibly difficult to dress as, but she can put it on to a plate. I imagine if the day was costume based she’d have picked a different book and not shared her actual favourite with her class mates

soundsystem · 21/02/2023 22:40

GodSaveTheClean · 21/02/2023 20:47

Our school is closed for a strike on world book day: hurrah!

Ha ours too but... they're having the dressing up and the parade on the Friday!

soundsystem · 21/02/2023 22:42

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 21/02/2023 20:52

DD's school doesn't do dressing up for this reason. It's a bit of a shame as the other schools in the town do, so on the day she sees a load of other kids in fancy dress and is a bit sad. Also a bit of a pain as the school sets a craft project to be done at home and brought in on WBD, which is more hassle than buying a costume, but it does at least make you think (a bit) about books. We've had to do "book in a bag" which was to put various objects in a bag to serve as clues for what their favourite book is, a diorama scene, puppet book characters and this year they are going to send every kid home with a potato and we have to make it into a book character as send it back in with them on WBD.

Please can you report back on how many Supertatos there are? 😁

Shrubb157 · 21/02/2023 22:44

My child’s dressing as Bluey and I’m an English teacher 😂

It’s her favourite and she’s got loads of the books. She asks to read one most nights. So what if the books are based on a TV series, they’re still books. She’s also got a Frozen book, Peppa Pig books and Hey Duggee books.

I really don’t think it’s worth gatekeeping what Primary School children can/can’t dress up as on a fun day which is about making reading enjoyable.

Zodfa · 21/02/2023 22:44

Pretty sure "X was a character on TV before they were a character in a book, you need to go as a character that was in a book first" is a concept that normal four-year-olds ought to be able to understand, actually.

Q2C4 · 21/02/2023 22:45

YABU. Why does it matter if the character was in a TV show or film before they were in a book? Clue's in the name - it's WBD not WDFCWWIBBS! (World Day For Characters Who Were In Books Before Screens!).

JoonT · 21/02/2023 22:50

Everyotherone · 21/02/2023 20:53

World Book Day should be abolished.

Book snobbery is a massive barrier to reading. All reading is important and good. It’s awful how many people leave school feeling like they’re not readers (and lots of associated shame and self doubt). There’s no place for book snobbery in WBD

But WBD should go back to the hell it came from.

With respect, I disagree. There should be a degree of snobbery around books. And there should be a canon. Some people are cleverer than others, and their opinion matters more. There is a reason the best minds of each generation have admired Homer and Dante and Shakespeare and Milton and Jane Austen and Dickens, etc. I 100% agree with Harold Bloom on this. The woke-left are now attacking the canon, and it makes me weep.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying kids (or even adults) should be reading nothing but Plato and Virginia Woolf. But even among children’s books there is a hierarchy. J K Rowling is a dreadful writer. Lewis’s Narnia books, Tolkien’s Hobbit, Roald Dahl’s stuff, Alice in Wonderland, Philip Pullman’s work, The Wind in the Willows, etc, are all vastly superior.

A book doesn’t have to be heavy to be good btw. P G Wodehouse, for example, was a genius. When he died, people compared him to Shakespeare and Keats. Very few novelists have ever written more exquisitely. As a stylist, he is superior to Thomas Hardy.

RedToothBrush · 21/02/2023 22:50

Is World Book Day just becoming an excuse for kids to dress up in their favourite fancy dress outfit without actually thinking about the book element?!

I like the idea of World Book Day. What I dislike is the costumes full stop. The 'it must be a book costume' neglects the cost of the costume. At DS's school, the trend has been that all the parents buy a costume every year. That must cost some parents a small fortune. Its simply not done to make your own. In any case, making one doesn't work out much cheaper (as I've discovered). This is on top of Halloween and school plays. And don't get me started on the waste.

I deeply resent getting a costume and then it never being worn again, so I've taken to 'fudging it' by either buying something that can be worn a different way / for something else (A jedi robe and a cape are brilliant for this! I think they've done about 4 or 5 events now between the two!) and I know will also be played with / worn at home in some capacity. My plan for World Book Day this year was going to be 'spy' as I know the bits would be reused.

Fortunately however, school have been making efforts this year to encourage families NOT to buy a costume and have been pushing a 'swop shop', making stuff and have gone with PJs for World Book Day.

I'm glad of this because it actually puts the focus back onto the book rather than the ever increasingly competitive costumes as the kids get older. Plus its acknowledging the sheer number of families really struggling financially this year and its in touch with the mood on fast fashion.

Its world BOOK day. Not World Book COSTUME day which had become the reality.

Maybe the kids will talk about the books this year if they are in PJs...

MeinKraft · 21/02/2023 22:52

DS's school is doing something different this year (crafty thing) instead of dressing up and now parents are moaning because their children are so disappointed. Can't please everyone Grin

doublechocolatedigestives · 21/02/2023 22:57

As much as I am a book worm, I absolutely hate WBD but that's because my son does not really read for pleasure so has no favourite characters to dress up as

So my Facebook timeline is full of smiling happy kids in lovely creative outfits but my son just goes to school in tracksuit bottoms and a t shirt

tsmainsqueeze · 21/02/2023 22:58

RagingWoke · 21/02/2023 20:54

Its generally just whatever costume the kid happens to have presumably? I doubt many primary aged dc are genuinely reading marvel comics over the tv shows and movies. It's mostly just s chance for 'those' parents to show his wonderful they are by buying whatever is in sainsburys.

My own dd (8) is a passionate reader, loves books and gets through a lot. Some have really captured her imagination and stayed with her and thats what she wants to be for WBD... but no one 'gets' her costumes. Last year she designed and made (with my help) a wonderful costume but no one got it and the winner of the competition at school was a store bought queen of hearts. This year she wants to be another character from a new book (that I'm very happy about it because it's a fabulous book in a series with excellent feminist themes) she's again chosen the costume, asked me to do a very specific hair style etc and I'm sure no one will get it and there'll be no praise or recognition that she has read, loved, remembered and brought to life.

How sad that the school made it into a competition !
No need for any costumes or even just taking in a book , my kids had / have masses of books but not all kids do - no child or parent should feel embarrassed or uncomfortable.
School's have loads of books ,there are so many lovely simple free things that schools could do on w b day without asking for any parental input at all.

NeverApologiseNeverExplain · 21/02/2023 23:03

I agree with you OP. And I find it quite depressing that so many parents can't cobble together a simple costume from what they have at home.

But the overall Mumsnet attitude is always very disparaging about WBD.

Bemyclementine · 21/02/2023 23:06

@mrsbn1988 I'm with you. Ds2 went as The saucepan man last year. He looked fabulous! Homemade costume, he was so pleased. No one knew who he was (well, 2 girls, same family, but that was all)

NeverApologiseNeverExplain · 21/02/2023 23:11

RedToothBrush · 21/02/2023 22:50

Is World Book Day just becoming an excuse for kids to dress up in their favourite fancy dress outfit without actually thinking about the book element?!

I like the idea of World Book Day. What I dislike is the costumes full stop. The 'it must be a book costume' neglects the cost of the costume. At DS's school, the trend has been that all the parents buy a costume every year. That must cost some parents a small fortune. Its simply not done to make your own. In any case, making one doesn't work out much cheaper (as I've discovered). This is on top of Halloween and school plays. And don't get me started on the waste.

I deeply resent getting a costume and then it never being worn again, so I've taken to 'fudging it' by either buying something that can be worn a different way / for something else (A jedi robe and a cape are brilliant for this! I think they've done about 4 or 5 events now between the two!) and I know will also be played with / worn at home in some capacity. My plan for World Book Day this year was going to be 'spy' as I know the bits would be reused.

Fortunately however, school have been making efforts this year to encourage families NOT to buy a costume and have been pushing a 'swop shop', making stuff and have gone with PJs for World Book Day.

I'm glad of this because it actually puts the focus back onto the book rather than the ever increasingly competitive costumes as the kids get older. Plus its acknowledging the sheer number of families really struggling financially this year and its in touch with the mood on fast fashion.

Its world BOOK day. Not World Book COSTUME day which had become the reality.

Maybe the kids will talk about the books this year if they are in PJs...

Yeah, "simply not done to make your own"...no doubt a convenient narrative for people who were only interested enough to buy a nylon Harry Potter robe with their supermarket shopping. "Ooh your kid will get bullied if they have a home made costume."

More fool the other parents for buying into it. How about they teach their kids to show some respect instead? (There are plenty of books about the evils of bullying, there you go, two birds with one stone).

Bemyclementine · 21/02/2023 23:12

@RagingWoke what is the new book please? Interested. 😊

NeverApologiseNeverExplain · 21/02/2023 23:16

MumDadBingoBlueyy · 21/02/2023 22:39

my little girl has to decorate a plate for WBD and im
so glad that’s the case as I couldn’t justify buying her a costume for £15-20 to be worn once. Her favourite book is Press Here by Hervé Tullet which would have been incredibly difficult to dress as, but she can put it on to a plate. I imagine if the day was costume based she’d have picked a different book and not shared her actual favourite with her class mates

Why on earth would you have had to buy a costume?

NeverApologiseNeverExplain · 21/02/2023 23:19

Fuckitydoodah · 21/02/2023 22:00

Yet another pointless day that's been monetised. Buy your kid a shitty supermarket costume that's been made by some poor fucker who got paid 15p or feel like a shit parent. Try to make them something homemade, but that makes you feel like shit too as you haven't got time, and it looks crap.

I Hate it.

You are really SO busy that you can't find an hour to put together a costume, given at least a month's notice? How so?

MajorCarolDanvers · 21/02/2023 23:21

WBD is a dream come true for supermarkets and ducking nightmare for parents.

Hate it.

RedToothBrush · 21/02/2023 23:23

Everyotherone · 21/02/2023 20:53

World Book Day should be abolished.

Book snobbery is a massive barrier to reading. All reading is important and good. It’s awful how many people leave school feeling like they’re not readers (and lots of associated shame and self doubt). There’s no place for book snobbery in WBD

But WBD should go back to the hell it came from.

Every Marvel character started in a book. Look down upon them all you like, but it still remains that comics and graphic novels got more children, particularly boys and children with LDs like Autism, ADHD and Dyslexia, engaged and free reading than you realise.

I actually think that 'book snobbery' isn't what people think it is.

Firstly, its absoluetely the case that books with characters who originally were in films have a place. Those books might be the only ones that kids will read and then be drawn into reading. The biggest book lovers often get that. Its actually people who are just snobs not bookish who have this attitude to 'mass market crap' books.

Secondly, graphic novels and comics are having a massive comeback atm. If you look on the Amazon / Supermarket deals some of these are being pushed to a mass market. They are also being encouraged by those 'book snobs' The Book Trust. I think Dog Man, Investigators, Bunny v Monkey, Narwhal and Jelly are just a few that fall into that group.

This is also getting a certain amount of recognition: 'A Day in the Life of a Poo, a Gnu and You' is a comic style fact book that won The Blue Peter Book Award a couple of years ago.

Where the issue is, is that often the 'mass market crap books' simply don't have enough literary / imaginative value to expand a child's reading ability. Thats actually where the likes of Dog Man are doing well because there is a pathway in comics / graphic novels developing through to more difficult books which ARE suitable for children with particular learning difficulties and also appeal to broader age range due to their content. And thats where its relevant to say that kids need to be reading other stuff that 'low value content' in some of the movie spin off books which are, unfortunately, poorly written.

The trend is very firmly with comic books at the moment. If you go into any supermarket or book shop you'll find they are making up a huge share of the market. And educators are firmly behind it.

There's a couple of kids in my son's class who have been book refusers and their parents have been disparing of it. The breakthrough has been due to these less formal books.

Its still jump though, to more wordy texts, which they do need to do about age ten. I did reading with yr5 prior to covid and there were a fair number of kids who kept reading 'Diary of a Wimpy Kid' series even though they were more than capable of more because these books were 'safe' and easy. Unless they find the 'love' for books for good well written books that spark their imagination, they struggle more to make that jump.

I would argue that the market has come on a long way, even in these last four years since I did that, which should make a difference as this new generation of books find their way to school book shelves and that can only be a good thing. Hopefully it means more kids who've struggled will find 'more meaty' books that they want to put the effort into even if they find it more challenging.

Its the likes of The Book Trust and WBD which is helping to drive this. I do have my issues with some of the stuff they are pushing, but overall I think they are doing a good job.

Its the commercialism of WBD thats the problem. Not WBD itself.

NeverApologiseNeverExplain · 21/02/2023 23:25

RagingWoke · 21/02/2023 20:54

Its generally just whatever costume the kid happens to have presumably? I doubt many primary aged dc are genuinely reading marvel comics over the tv shows and movies. It's mostly just s chance for 'those' parents to show his wonderful they are by buying whatever is in sainsburys.

My own dd (8) is a passionate reader, loves books and gets through a lot. Some have really captured her imagination and stayed with her and thats what she wants to be for WBD... but no one 'gets' her costumes. Last year she designed and made (with my help) a wonderful costume but no one got it and the winner of the competition at school was a store bought queen of hearts. This year she wants to be another character from a new book (that I'm very happy about it because it's a fabulous book in a series with excellent feminist themes) she's again chosen the costume, asked me to do a very specific hair style etc and I'm sure no one will get it and there'll be no praise or recognition that she has read, loved, remembered and brought to life.

I actually thought that one of the nice aspects was that where kids dress as characters from books that their classmates don't know, it gives them an "in" to explain who the character is and talk about the book. We always send them in with the book alongside the costume.

It's really lame that the school awarded the prize to a bought costume. I hope that the child had at least read Alice in Wonderland?

bakewellbride · 21/02/2023 23:28

You wouldn't like my kid's school op, they have the option of just going in in their PJs. So not even a tv character or any character!

RedToothBrush · 21/02/2023 23:30

NeverApologiseNeverExplain · 21/02/2023 23:11

Yeah, "simply not done to make your own"...no doubt a convenient narrative for people who were only interested enough to buy a nylon Harry Potter robe with their supermarket shopping. "Ooh your kid will get bullied if they have a home made costume."

More fool the other parents for buying into it. How about they teach their kids to show some respect instead? (There are plenty of books about the evils of bullying, there you go, two birds with one stone).

I made a costume last year. It took me fecking age. An hour my arse.

DS loved it though and his best mate has home made costumes so they were both happy and loved the effort of the others. It cost me as much to get the bits for it as buying a cheap supermarket one.

And yes there is definitely competitive stuff / bullying over costumes that goes on. Its part of why I made one - to ensure DS understands the point and looks out for his mate when they hit yr5 and 6. There certainly, already is a little madam in their class who goes on about whats cool and whats not - they are 7 and 8 - and the other kids are starting to be self conscious.

I dont think you can avoid that unfortunately, cos THATS snobbery.

SleepingStandingUp · 21/02/2023 23:31

mrsbn1988 · 21/02/2023 20:34

This is lighthearted .

But AIBU for getting an irrational rage that there are kids dressed up as Elsa or Moana or Marvel someone every WBD?

This stems from the fact that I've just been looking for a WBD costume from a well-known supermarket and spotted a Bluey costume. Now don't get me wrong - I LOVE Bluey, but Bluey was created for TV. Same as Peppa Pig.

I KNOW there are story books around that feature these characters, but they were originally created for TV or film, so they don't count.

And yes, characters like Harry Potter do, because they were originally book characters before the film adaptions.

I'm interested to hear other's opinions. Is World Book Day just becoming an excuse for kids to dress up in their favourite fancy dress outfit without actually thinking about the book element?!

Book snobbery. There's nothing wrong with comic BOOKS. Just because it's got pictures doesn't mean it isn't a BOOK

MissMaple82 · 21/02/2023 23:32

No, it's annoying fucking day that parents refuse to pay out for, therfore allow their kids to wear what the fuck they want if it means not having to fork out cash for piss all !!

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