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To expect the school to do something?

32 replies

MotherofBingo · 20/02/2023 08:05

This is going to be a bit long winded sorry. I've suspected my dd(7) has ADHD since she was around 2 years old. She didn't speak until she was 2.5 years old - she babbled but other than mum/dad and 2 other words she said nothing recognisable, I brought it up with the health visitor at the time who said not to worry, come back in a few months if still concerned but then she did start talking. She would have epic tantrums to the point of headbutting the floor so hard she'd make herself bleed. She is like the duracell bunny and so, so loud. She never stops talking, will interrupt everyone and is never quiet or still. Ever. She was late to potty train despite my best efforts and again I had the health visitor involved who again dismissed my concerns.

When she started nursery they said how active she was and how outgoing and loud she was, but it was nursery so not concerning. Then she started reception and homeschooling was impossible, she would not focus and it was like I was torturing her when I did try to get her to sit and do work. She was behind when they went into school but lockdown had happened and I was told she'd catch up. Year 1 came and again, I brought up my concerns with a teacher who agreed she was falling further behind and did put her on different books but again, lockdown had happened and she'd catch up eventually. Only now she's in year 2 and her SATS are coming up and I've been told by the school that she's going to fail them, and that's it basically. They aren't doing anything to help her, they seem quite happy to let her fail and just blame me telling me to read with her more at home. (Only me mind you, never her dad who is with her most evenings because I work evenings). I do read with her as much as possible but she will lie on the floor, close to tears saying she can't do it when I ask her to read 1 page. It's not enjoyable for any of us and it's only going to put her off more to be honest, she does have a story read to her every night and has done since she was a baby. I've been to the GP who agreed that she should have an ADHD assessment and said he'd refer her but then the surgery phoned back and said the rules have changed and its down to the school to refer. The school who aren't supporting her at all and haven't listened to me for the last 3 years.

My 3 year old has been treated exactly the same, if anything had less 1 to 1 attention because there's now two children and I work a lot more than when her big sister was little and can recite several books word for word (obviously not actually reading), knows her numbers up to 20 whereas her big sister couldn't do up to 10 by this age and is so much calmer so as much as the school like to blame my parenting, it's not. My eldest also struggles with things like following instructions, remembering tasks, losing items constantly (I know this is normal for 7 year olds but it's honestly excessive). She isn't below average intelligence, the knowledge is there and she can answer questions and read well if we catch her on a good moment but 9/10 it's like drawing blood from a stone. I'm doing all I can but AIBU to think the school should be doing SOMETHING.

I understand there is a lack of funding, I understand teachers are at breaking point I really do but my child is failing and they really don't care. I know year 2 SATS don't matter, but GCSEs will and I don't want her to go through her school life without the support that she clearly needs.

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cansu · 31/03/2023 19:07

What makes you think the school don't care?
Do you think they leave her on her own without a teacher?

She is in class with her peers and a teacher with possibly one TA.
The teacher teaches her and 29 others.
They likely have other children who would benefit from 1:1. You say that on a 1:1 basis you can't get her to read.

Crumbwell · 31/03/2023 19:22

I’m the teacher in this situation, no money for people to support, sharing a SENCO with another school so rarely see her, no other adults in class with me and told to focus only on those children with a fighting chance of passing the SATs because if I don’t I won’t move along the pay scale. You should not be in this situation, and it absolutely isn’t your parenting.

KTC40 · 24/07/2023 16:59

Hi, I posted a while ago, I was told that my girl would fail her SATs...she's been diagnosed with ADD... she got scaled score of 86 for reading ☹️ and 98 for Maths (not as bad) she's going to have intervention classes before school and I'm going to trial meds...how did your DD do

Hankunamatata · 24/07/2023 17:06

Go back to gp. Nhs can diagnose, its a medical condition. You often get both the school and gp blaming each other. Sadly you may be looking at a 2 year wait plus via nhs

IntheJingelyJangelyJungle · 24/07/2023 17:24

In my area CAMHs simply no longer accept referrals from GPs (and for years there has been a trodden pathway for schools to refer, but some schools often plead ignorance of this pathway). You can generally find your educational area policy re recognising/ referring for adhd online… eg google Adhd policy Oxfordshire and you should get the schools pathway for identifying and referring/ support… eg

https://schools.oxfordshire.gov.uk/cms/sites/schools/files/folders/folders/documents/SEN/adhd/ADHDprotocol.pdf

It can be helpful to share your local EA pathway with your Senco if needed.

CAMHs request a lot of observational detail which there is no way a GP could observe in the space of a single or even double appointment. Teachers have hundreds of hours observation Vs a brief GP appointment hence CAMHs feel they are best placed to refer and explain concerns.

None of this excuses the woefully inadequate resourcing of children’s mental health services across the board.

I hope your little girl gets all the help and support she needs. It’s hard.

https://schools.oxfordshire.gov.uk/cms/sites/schools/files/folders/folders/documents/SEN/adhd/ADHDprotocol.pdf

Seashor · 24/07/2023 18:23

When schools say they are underfunded they are not kidding. I love all the ‘demand this, demand that, tell Ofsted’ advice!!! Good luck with ALL of that !!!
We run on an absolute shoestring. The absolute reality of years of underfunding is, there are no support staff, there is no educational psychologist, their is no Sendco just someone doing the legal minimum .

You HAVE to do more to support your child. All I have read from you are excuses why you can’t.

IntheJingelyJangelyJungle · 24/07/2023 18:53

Seashor · 24/07/2023 18:23

When schools say they are underfunded they are not kidding. I love all the ‘demand this, demand that, tell Ofsted’ advice!!! Good luck with ALL of that !!!
We run on an absolute shoestring. The absolute reality of years of underfunding is, there are no support staff, there is no educational psychologist, their is no Sendco just someone doing the legal minimum .

You HAVE to do more to support your child. All I have read from you are excuses why you can’t.

I hear you. Schools under enormous pressure with such limited resources and sky rocketing SEN demand.

Hopefully the people ‘demanding’ (understandably- ‘strongly advocating’ for their children is perhaps a better phrase) are wholly supportive of exactly why teachers are striking.

The whole setup is a shit show, the core problem is not the education/ health soldiers working on the front line.

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