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AIBU?

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...to send DS2 (aged 5) to school an hour late....

41 replies

Squirdle · 08/02/2008 08:32

...cos he is still fast asleep...bless his little cotton socks

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Squirdle · 08/02/2008 08:36

Actually I have just called school to tell them he will be late. They were fine about it.

So tell me. why don't my children ever sleep this late at weekends?

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glaskham · 08/02/2008 08:38

its a childs perogative to sleep in when you dont want them to!!.....ds isn't in nursery until afternoons as i though it would be better to disturb his nap and let him have it later now instead of having to wake him up early.....once he strated nursery he decided 7am was his new waking time not the usual 8.30am!!

VictorianSqualor · 08/02/2008 08:47

Why is he so tired?
If something happened that woudlnt normally, then no yanbu, but if it's just because he wants a lie in then yes, you are.

Squirdle · 08/02/2008 08:48

He's awake now, but I'm still not going to send him until 10. He does have a cold but isn't unwell. I don't want to keep him off today simply because he had 2 days off at the beginning of the week and was reluctant to go back (" I just like seeing what you are doing in the day, mummy" ) and I don't want to send the wrong message to him ie, you are fine but because you got up late you don't have to go to school. He loves school, so I don't want to start problems.

He's having some warm milk and watching Mr Maker atm, so we will get going soon. I reckon the school day should start at 10 every day, I quite like this

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Squirdle · 08/02/2008 08:51

VS, he has a cold so maybe that is why. He was absolutely sound asleep so I decided it was best to leave him. He certainly isn't one for lie ins, normally up around 6, so I don't think he wanted a lie in.

He is in reception, so I don't think it is a major problem. Hasn't happened before and unlikely to again.

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Twiglett · 08/02/2008 08:52

my kids often have to be woken up

there's no way I'd let them sleep in (unless they've been up all night vomiting with high fever or similar)

Twiglett · 08/02/2008 08:52

if it was a huge aberration I'd probably feel differently

harpsichordcarrier · 08/02/2008 08:53

in reception, yes I would. if he is ill and needs to sleep, yes I would.

Squirdle · 08/02/2008 08:53

Mine never have to be woken up! I wish they did!! Which was why I left him, he obviously needed it.

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Squirdle · 08/02/2008 08:55

Harpsi, he isn't ill, he just has a cold, but even a cold often takes it out of you a bit. He is up and raring to go now though. If he had woken and I felt he was still too tired to go I wouldn't send him. But he is fine.

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Mistymoo · 08/02/2008 08:56

" I don't want to send the wrong message to him ie, you are fine but because you got up late you don't have to go to school."

If you are worried about sending wrong messages then you should have woken him up and sent him to school. It can be disruptive to the class and the teacher having children coming in late. It does send a wrong message to your child that timing isn't important and the rules don't apply to him. Anyway that's my opinion.

WigWamBam · 08/02/2008 08:59

But harpsi - if he's ill and needs to sleep then he shouldn't be in school.

If I let dd sleep in, she'd never be at school on time ... I always have to go in and drag her out. But if she's well, I think it's important to be at school on time. Otherwise she gets the impression that she can lie-in whenever she likes.

VictorianSqualor · 08/02/2008 09:00

If he went to bed at the same time as normal and was still sound asleep, I'd be concerened he needed it.
If he had been up late for no good reason, I'd have made him get up, if he had been doing something that kept him up late, like a family gathering or something, than possibly.
I do agree that it can be disruptive to the rest of the class though, but I'd make sure it was breaktime when I took him in so it didnt bother anyone.
I kept DD off school to go and see my 20week scan cos she was worried/excited about the baby and took her in at breaktime, she is 7.

Squirdle · 08/02/2008 09:01

But he is in reception!!! If he was older then I'd agree with you, but he is in reception! That excuse wouldn't wash if it was my 14 yr old, but a 5 yr old is different. He went to bed at 7, he needed the sleep.

All they will be doing is playing this morning. IMHO they don't seem to do much else. It's unusual for him to sleep in.

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Mistymoo · 08/02/2008 09:05

I don't really know much about reception (we're in Scotland and so it is straight into Primary 1 at age 5) but surely the day is structured that way for a reason.

When I am taking my dd to nursery which starts 10 mins later than rest of school I see the same children walking in late every morning. I'm not saying that you would do that but these kids/parents have no intention of ever being on time. This attitude had to start when they were young so I'm not sure what difference his age makes.

VictorianSqualor · 08/02/2008 09:07

Reception is the first year of school it's when they learn what the rest of school will be like.
Once isn't going to harm him or be a huge deal, but 'it's reception' isn't a good enough reason tbh.
I've already said I'd possibly have kept him off myself, and DD in year 2 has been kept off, but I dont think for a second what year they are in makes a difference.

Squirdle · 08/02/2008 09:10

I'm always on time (well except for today) and DS has only had the 2 days off this week (because he was ill) out of the whole time he has been at school. I don't encourage days off school, but I do think if he needs his sleep then I won't wake him.

Ye sif he had gone to bed late, messed around at bed time etc etc, then it would be unreasonable, but he went straight to sleep (as he normally does)

Anyway, he is just having some breakfast and then we will be off. So he will only be half an hour late.

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Squirdle · 08/02/2008 09:14

It being reception wasn't the reason. The reason was because I felt if he was still sound asleep then I felt I should let him sleep. The reception bit is because I don't feel he is going to miss a vital part of his schooling just because he will be and hour/half an hour late...in reception. We don't take the children out of school for holidays or let them take time off willy nilly, they have always been wonderful about going to school/nursery.

Gawd, I didn't think it was that unreasonable...maybe it was

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harpsichordcarrier · 08/02/2008 09:14

well, I think four is madly early to start school tbh and half the children in my dd1s class look shattered by Friday

VictorianSqualor · 08/02/2008 09:14

What time is their breaktime?
If you're half an hour late teacher will have just done register and settled everyone down for the morning, then you take your DS in and she will have to start over again, I'd really wait til breaktime myself.

VictorianSqualor · 08/02/2008 09:16

It's not that unreasonable, as long as it doesnt become habit it isnt going to be a big problem.

nortynamechanger · 08/02/2008 09:16

Watch it, all the smug folk will be along in a minute to tell you, not only, that their children are never late, but how other children coming in late disavantage THEIR children by disrupting the class etc

I hope he has a lovely day.

Squirdle · 08/02/2008 09:18

They run around like loonies in the morning. They are in and out of class 1 and 2 and basically it is free play. I can't see how DS turning up is going to disrupt that!

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Mistymoo · 08/02/2008 09:18

No one is getting at you but you did ask and we just gave our opinions. I personally have quite strong views on this, maybe because I work in a school, or maybe just the way I was brought up.

In my opinion, unless you home ed, then school is not an option it is a requirement and unless they are ill they should be there.

I don't mean to offend just offer my thoughts.

Squirdle · 08/02/2008 09:20

Thank you nortynamechanger

VS, it won't become a habit. It's a one off.

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