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To ask what is an appropriate punishment for a year 5 primary for physical bullying..

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Mammabear23 · 07/02/2023 07:10

Just that. My daughter has has several 'incidents' of name calling, pushing and shoving with the same girl. Yesterday I was called to let me know Dd would probably have some bruises on her shins due to an incident at lunch.
Turns out it was a bit more seriously than I was initially told and involved 2 other boys, 1 punched her in the face and another held her wrists whilst the girl kicked her. When I asked her why she didn't tell the teacher about the boys, she said they had only asked about the girl.
Dd can be quite literal, we're on waiting list for assessment.
I'm going to talk to teacher today but just wondered what punishment would be likely in this situation? So far, there's been a lot of talk but not a lot of action.

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Oysterbabe · 07/02/2023 07:14

You won't be told what the punishment is.
I hope your DD is OK, that must have been very scary for her.

toomuchlaundry · 07/02/2023 07:14

They won’t necessarily tell you what the punishment is. You need to ask the school how they are going to safeguard your daughter. Sorry this has happened to her.

KellyJonesLeatherTrousers · 07/02/2023 07:16

Sorry this is happening to your DD. I don’t think you can focus on what the punishment would be for the other children - ask about how they’re going to ensure that this doesn’t happen again.

Justalittlebitfurther · 07/02/2023 07:16

Dont ask about the consequences for the other children. Ask about how they are going to keep your dd safe. This is the most important issue. Refer to the document keeping children safe in education.

Mammabear23 · 07/02/2023 07:19

They do usually explain what they will do. Yesterday, when they called, said the girl would miss her morning break and her parents would be called. It was unusual, in that they named the girl too, that doesn't usually happen. I just can't help think missing 20 minutes break for purposely hurting another child is lenient.

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LucyWhipple · 07/02/2023 07:27

Try to focus less on the ‘punishment’ and more on what will be put in place to prevent anything like this ever happening again.

How much are school aware that this is an escalation of repeated incidents vs yesterday being a one off?

Untitledsquatboulder · 07/02/2023 07:29

Find out as much detail as you can from your dd. Child A and B arguing and then child B going too far and hitting A, is a different scenario than child A standing there minding their own business then being grabbed and hit by B and C.

The school will have an anti-bullying policy. You can ask to see a copy (it's probably available on their website) and insist that they follow it.

Mammabear23 · 07/02/2023 07:31

Yes, you're right. They are very aware. I've been in at least 3 times, this school year, to chat about various issues and this girls name is mentioned everytime.

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elsiemarleysellsthebarley · 07/02/2023 07:40

My DC in y5 (ASD) received a one day suspension for first incident (punching child), two day suspension the second time and five day the third time. He’ll be permanently excluded next time we’ve been told. However, I the parents of the child involved do not know this and do not know of his SEN/ the fact that he was in meltdown etc. It doesn’t sound like this was the case here though when multiple children were involved. That sounds awful for your DD.

Gymrabbit · 07/02/2023 07:45

The punishment that the previous poster said was given to her child seems fair to me in general (though in that case I am surprised they were given to a child with SEN)

Assault is normally an exclusion offence.
If in Year 5 they are also around the age of criminal responsibility. If your child is punched again I would be threatening the school with the police.

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