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Need to return some money - how?

43 replies

FlyingHighandDry · 05/02/2023 08:31

DH and I had tickets for a music event on Friday evening.
DH became unwell on Wednesday and we were no longer able to attend.
I asked friends if anyone was interested.
Friend said her friend was interested.
Contacted friend and agreed on a price. All good.

Asked for bank transfer and then things started to go wrong!
The buyer wanted the tickets transferring before payment. I said no.

I said I wanted payment by 6pm otherwise I would list on marketplace as I didn’t want to be in a position where we left it too long and I couldn’t sell them.

No payment so at 6:15 I contacted buyer to say tickets were no longer available to her.
Listed on marketplace and sold them to someone within an hour! £ transferred immediately and tickets transferred.

In the meantime, original buyer told me she’d get the money to me soon.

Again I said I was no longer selling them to her.

At 9pm, original buyer transfers the money!

Contacted her immediately to say the tickets had been sold as I had told her twice and asked for her details to send the money back.
She has gone mad and is refusing to send me her bank details as I am a con-artist.
I said I would send the money to mutual friend instead and she said no. Believes our friend is in on the ‘scam’ too!

She has told me to keep the money! £180! Which seems an insane response?
I keep messaging asking how to repay but she has told me not to contact her again.

This is making me very worried as I sense more is to come!

WWYD?

OP posts:
grayhairdontcare · 05/02/2023 09:14

Don't contact the police because someone has thrown a hissy fit!
You can ask your bank to reverse refund it.

GoodChat · 05/02/2023 09:14

PinkPantherPaws · 05/02/2023 09:06

Please op, ignore those saying to send a cheque or by PayPal! Awful advice.

I don't think it's a scam. On the surface of it, I reckon it's more likely she's a drama llama looking for a reason to post a long, sad 'scam warming' post all over Facebook etc with your details on.

Send her one final message saying you obviously can't return her money without her permission but you'll return it anytime if she just sends you her details. Then watch her social media and wait.

Keeping the money and stalking her social media is much worse advice....

PinkPantherPaws · 05/02/2023 09:16

Keeping the money and stalking her social media is much worse advice....

Why?

itsgettingweird · 05/02/2023 09:18

InspectorPaws · 05/02/2023 08:52

It’s a scam. She wants you to contact your bank and reverse the payment. Then she separately goes to her bank and shows them the evidence and asks her bank to reverse the payment. Both banks reverse the payment and age gets twice as much money.

I would also be more concerned it's her doing a scam as it's just so weird otherwise!

But if no one wants the £180 I'll have it Grin

Tohaveandtohold · 05/02/2023 09:23

You know she could report to your bank that you’re trying to scam her and that you were selling a ticket which she paid for and was never given. Your bank will speak to you so you can send them the screenshots then but it can inconvenience you as they’ll block your account whilst investigating. I think that’s what she wants to do, make sure you’re inconvenienced by it even though she knows she’s in the wrong so I’ll say call your bank and tell them what happened so there’s at least a note on your account for when she calls

Tinkerbyebye · 05/02/2023 09:23

Put it into a separate account ( open a savings account with the bank if necessary) keep allThe screen shots and don’t do anything. As others have said she maybe doing a double scam. If you can send her one more message saying as she won’t give her bank details you will leave it with her to contact her bank to ask for its return

if she does post anything on SM you can then advise of the actual scenario and they you are waiting for her to claim it back

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 05/02/2023 09:31

I agree screen shots of all the messages. And then contact the bank to return it. And get a record on having done that.

SlipSlidinAway · 05/02/2023 09:40

Can you really ask your bank to reverse a payment you've made? Surely if that was the case there's a risk every time you sell something to someone - that they'll pay you in advance, you send the goods, then they claw the money back. Or have I misunderstood?

EsmeSusanOgg · 05/02/2023 09:44

Tinkerbyebye · 05/02/2023 09:23

Put it into a separate account ( open a savings account with the bank if necessary) keep allThe screen shots and don’t do anything. As others have said she maybe doing a double scam. If you can send her one more message saying as she won’t give her bank details you will leave it with her to contact her bank to ask for its return

if she does post anything on SM you can then advise of the actual scenario and they you are waiting for her to claim it back

This.

Butchyrestingface · 05/02/2023 09:47

She'll contact you again once she's sobered up, calmed down, or taken her medication.

Possibly a combination of all 3.

Just forget about it until then.

Bamboozle123 · 05/02/2023 09:48

The advice on this thread feels pretty sketchy OP. I don't believe for a second that she could do a double refund scam by reversing the payment through her bank whilst you do the same.

She sounds unhinged though.

OP just contact your bank, explain the situation and ask them to return the payment.

Justmeandthedog1 · 05/02/2023 09:52

She’s told not to return it.
Shes told you not to contact her again.
So it’s all on her. You’ve offered.
Keep screenshots of everything and sit tight.
You could speak to the bank to reverse the payment but emphasise it must only be done once.

Chickenly · 05/02/2023 09:53

Some of these responses are so concerning. It’s why so many people fall for these kinds of scams. It’s a scam, she’s scamming you. Some people are unbelievably naive.

weightymatters73 · 05/02/2023 10:07

Chickenly · 05/02/2023 09:53

Some of these responses are so concerning. It’s why so many people fall for these kinds of scams. It’s a scam, she’s scamming you. Some people are unbelievably naive.

Absolutely 100%, shes hoping you return it in cash or paypal or send it by some other means and she is also going to get a bank refund!

She is the scammer!

tangerinetreesandmarmaladeskies · 05/02/2023 10:15

weightymatters73 · 05/02/2023 10:07

Absolutely 100%, shes hoping you return it in cash or paypal or send it by some other means and she is also going to get a bank refund!

She is the scammer!

Exactly - it's a really common scam.

Send her nothing. Do nothing. Keep a record of all her messages and the transaction and contact your bank.

Loics · 05/02/2023 10:34

I would do nothing more. You have proof that you told her multiple times, before and after the transfer, that you weren't selling the tickets to her.
Call your bank, explain the situation and then they have it noted your account, yet more proof that you aren't a scammr should she try to tell her bank that's what's happened. They may even be able to advise if it can be reversed without the possibility of her claiming it back again.

LadyJ2023 · 05/02/2023 10:44

Do not send to one of her supposed friends, if she didn't get it from her supposed friend then you would be in bother. Never heard of such a bizarre person.Hope you get sorted

BellaJuno · 05/02/2023 10:54

tangerinetreesandmarmaladeskies · 05/02/2023 10:15

Exactly - it's a really common scam.

Send her nothing. Do nothing. Keep a record of all her messages and the transaction and contact your bank.

This is the advice to follow. Put the money to one side, tell your bank and see what her next move is.

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