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To think that I caused DD’s seizure?

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WorriedSickMother · 29/01/2023 14:12

I will start off by prefacing that we are in canada for context.

A few days ago my entire family came down with covid. DH and I got the symptoms first so we were keeping a close eye on our 18 month old DD checking her temperature and watching for symptoms. So far she only had a runny nose.

Well a couple of days after husband and I felt the first symptoms we had just given DD lunch which is usually followed by her daily nap. We took her temperature which was 37.7 and then we put her to bed in our bed with me. She was not wearing a shirt because she was pulling at it so we took it off so she would be comfortable. We kept her in pants because she takes her diaper off if she’s not wearing pants.

She was particularly fussy so we decided we would let her nap as long as she needed since she obviously was not feeling well.

Well I was running a high fever of 39 at the time so I took a tylenol. After that an hour and a half into the nap I was so cold that I losing the feeling in my feet. It was -20 outside that night. It was very cold even with the furnace going! DD had no covers so I covered her up because who wouldn’t assume that if an adult is cold enough to lose the feeling in their toes that surely a one year old must be cold as well? Shortly after she had a seizure and it was the scariest moment of my life.

We called 911. She went to the hospital. Family was informed. She is okay now and she is at home still recovering from covid.

The paramedics said they suspected that it was a febrile seizure which is caused by a sudden fever spike as when they checked her temperate it has gone up to 38.5.

When I was speaking to DM I told her how everything happened while we were in the waiting room and mentioned the blankets situation. DM was very supportive and told me it was not my fault and these things just happen.

After the phone call DD was seen by paediatrics and the doctor was very kind and reassured us that these seizures were not our fault and they are nearly impossible to prevent. They said they almost never cause long term damage and that it’s rare for them to happen again.

My sister is an ER nurse in the united states and she called me today and without asking for any context she went off on me telling me that I should not have bundled DD up when she was sick. Going on and on about all the stupid parents who overheat their sick children by wrapping them in thick blankets and get them hospitalized and then people like her have to take care of them. I tried to explain myself but she said I couldn’t have known how warm it was because I was running a fever and most not have properly felt the room temperature. She then stopped and continued “I’m not saying it’s your fault but, don’t wrap her up like that again. Open the window, turn the heater down, let her sleep in her diaper. Then things like this won’t happen.”

I was so stunned I just went along with it because I was still reeling from what happened earlier.

I don’t know what to think anymore. The doctor said these seizures can’t be prevented but then my sister who is a nurse says that I must have caused them. Which is true?

I feel sick with guilt that I might have caused it… I just didn’t want her to be cold… She’s such a skinny little thing I always worry about her getting cold… but maybe my sister is right? Maybe I couldn’t tell properly because of my fever?

Did I cause my little girl to be hospitalized? 😔

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piedbeauty · 29/01/2023 17:36

Here you are, op: www.nhsinform.scot/illnesses-and-conditions/brain-nerves-and-spinal-cord/febrile-seizures

There's nothing there about one of the causes being wrapping a baby up when they are ill. Febrile convulsions are caused when a baby or child has a high temp, caused by an illness.

Your sister sounds horrible. Perhaps she was just worried and she didn't mean to be so harsh?

But I'd ignore her and listen to the doctor.

southernbelles · 29/01/2023 22:17

My 1 year old son had his first febrile seizure today. He has a cold & only had a temp of 38.3 so I wasn't overly concerned, I popped to the bathroom then came back in & he was fitting on the sofa. His temperature went up to 39.4 very quickly after that. I feel completely traumatised by the experience; we called an ambulance & they were fantastic. I asked them lots of questions about whether it was anything I had done & they assured me it wasn't.

Bluedabadeeba · 29/01/2023 22:38

My friend's baby had one of these a few times when she had a fever and we live in the tropics! 30°C at least all year round.

Apparently nothing to with the room temperature, but the body's response to a fever. Your sister is uninformed/quite nasty when you needed comfort -- I probably would want space from her for a good while.

SleepyRich · 29/01/2023 22:48

Yep I'll echo the room and agree with the team that actually assessed your child. Your sister is parroting quite out dated information and you did not cause the seizure.

Febrile convulsions very very rarely lead to any harm and are not associated with more 'serious' infections. Some children do seem prone to them but rarely occur after 5yrs old.

palelavender · 29/01/2023 23:12

My eldest who is 24 had one febrile convulsion with a fever as a toddler. He was stripped down being sponged bathed with cool water and had a fan going. That was the one and only febrile convulsion. My husband was with him but he said it was very frightening to see. Your sister is being unhelpful. Do people really have the windonw open at -20 in Canada?

palelavender · 29/01/2023 23:22

I am actually appalled that your sister is a nurse. I can see her now telling somebody in the ER having a heart attack that if they'd had a better diet and excercised more then then they wouldn't have been hospitalised and then people like her wouldn't have to take care of them! Or perhaps she is nicer to the patients - you know the ones she is putting herself out to care for.

youshouldnthaveasked · 29/01/2023 23:25

I have a know it all sister who is a nurse too. I’ve learned to ignore and trust my own judgement

Plus in your case the doctor reassured you that it couldn’t be prevented

Dinosauratemydaffodils · 29/01/2023 23:32

I'm in my 40s but even when I had my first convulsion (winter, continental Europe) the Doctors reassured my mum that the fact that she'd wrapped me up to take me out in the snow (to take me to the Doctors) had not caused it.

I had a lot of convulsions, possibly because I had a lot of ear infections and was put on Epilim. They took me off it at 6 and I never had another episode.

Nat6999 · 29/01/2023 23:38

I had a febrile convulsion when I was 11 & had measles, the doctor had only been out to see me an hour before, there was nothing my mum could have done to stop it, it was the measles causing my temperature to spike even though I had been given paracetamol & was only wearing light thin pyjamas. They are part of the body fighting the infection, better for a temperature to spike, cause one convulsion & fall than have a prolonged fever & the dc get worse.

Mariposista · 30/01/2023 00:18

Published a document on this only last week!
Some kids are more prone to febrile seizures (we don’t mention convulsions anymore and some seizures are non-convulsive) than others. Factors include family history, ethnicity (Causican and Japanese background are somehow more prone) and certain neurological factors. They are mainly not harmful and don’t require additional treatment, unless considered a ‘complex seizure’ (lasting over 15 minutes and abnormal brain scan after.
Body temperature is not the only contributing factor - two kids could have the same virus or same temperature, one will have a seizure and the other won’t. Some are just more prone. It’s true bundling them up and cosleeping are ill advised (light covering and supervision but own bed is best practice) but your sister was unfair to imply you were responsible for the seizure. It would most likely have happened anyway if your kid is ‘one of those who is probe to them’. Kid may have another, may not: Good news is they usually grow out of them by 5 and they don’t cause long term harm or mean your kid will get epilepsy- it doesn’t work like that.

thaegumathteth · 30/01/2023 00:26

I had a lot of febrile seizures as a kid and my mum tried everything to prevent them. She couldn't . It happened and then I was ok again. In truth it was worse for my mum than me. I have no memory of them but my mum does and because we lived rurally she was given Valium suppositories to keep at home to stop them! What a joy! None of this was your fault.

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