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To think that prisons should not accommodate prisoners' "sexual fetishes"?

45 replies

Poonicorn · 28/01/2023 09:15

"Sophie" Eastwood who strangled a cell mate with a shoelace identifies as a baby and the prison supplies them with nappies, pureed food, a dummy etc. and the guards have to hold their hand when they leave their cell.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2022/04/10/scotland-strangler-now-identifies-as-a-baby-who-wears-nappies-in-jail-16439336/amp/

This is described as a sexual fetish.

AIBU to think that prisons and guards should not have to validate and participate in a person's sexual fetish?

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sst1234 · 28/01/2023 10:54

It’s always Canada. Must be something in the water.

Ofcourseshecan · 28/01/2023 10:54

sst1234 · 28/01/2023 10:36

What happens when some perverted dude says he identifies as a six year old and wants to be accommodated in primary school with other children. If you tolerate this, then your children will be next. It will happen and there’s nothing you’ll be able to do about it.

But hey, you must respect other people’s identity and choices and allow them to be who they really are.

Well, we’ve already got a man dressing as a schoolgirl and hanging around a school gates accosting the children. Police not worried, of course. He wasn’t committing an offence. Nothing to see here, everything’s all right ….

www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/19415856.beaconsfield-high-school---warning-man-dressed-schoolgirl-tries-talk-female-pupils/

GreenWheat · 28/01/2023 11:06

This whole "identity" bollocks will hopefully get so ridiculous that it implodes. If I identify as a 16 year old please can I have free dental treatment? What about if I identify as a ten year old boy and demand to play on their football team? It's bloody insane and we should stop pandering to it.

FOJN · 28/01/2023 11:09

Rom the DM article about Stefonkee:

Now, Stefonknee lives with friends who she cans her 'adoptive mommy and daddy' as a six-year-old girl, dressing in children's clothing and spending her time playing and coloring with her adoptive parents' grandchildren.

This is an adult male playing with actual children. The article fails to mention that Stefonkee is having a sexual relationship with both "adoptive parents". This is not a suitable environment for actual children to spend time in. Also note in the photos that Stefonkee pads a bra out, how many 6 years olds do you know who wear a padded out bra?

Rose of Dawn on YouTube did video about Stefonknee which goes into more detail.

TheClitterati · 28/01/2023 11:23

It’s always Canada. Must be something in the water.

It's called Self ID. It's something in the law not the water.

What we are seeing being played out in Canada, Ireland (and Scotland hasn't even started) is the result of passing legislation where anyone can identify into the other sex class and "no kink shaming" is left to run amok. These are all examples of our future with self id. Particularly grim for women & children.

Bookegg · 28/01/2023 11:35

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Giggorata · 28/01/2023 11:57

it's all pandering to paraphilias nowadays. I'm sick of this shit, too.

I look at it all like this:

To think that prisons should not accommodate prisoners' "sexual fetishes"?
TangledWebOfDeception · 28/01/2023 11:59

I'm getting an image...something to do with a 'Barbie'...

TangledWebOfDeception · 28/01/2023 12:02

@Giggorata That should really say sexes!

Eleganz · 28/01/2023 12:09

Self expression always has to have limits in a functional society. Instead of having a reasoned debate about what those limits should be in the case of self-ID we have seen a complete close down of debate by a bunch of ideologues who have somehow captured the ear of some of those in power. I think it is really interesting to see people on 'the left' so captured by what is in essence a completely individualistic ideology simply because it apes the language and rhetoric of previous sex-based struggles.

The problem is that what may happen now is an outrage fuelled reactionary backlash and continued polarisation of society on this issue.

IDontCareMatthew · 28/01/2023 12:27

I can't imagine this being accommodated in the men's cat b prison I work in

Nope. Would not happen

Holding hands ffs!

Poonicorn · 28/01/2023 16:31

What is the difference between a man identifying as a baby and a man identifying as a woman?

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Underanothersky · 28/01/2023 17:05

Giggorata · 28/01/2023 11:57

it's all pandering to paraphilias nowadays. I'm sick of this shit, too.

I look at it all like this:

You think Butch and Femme are mental disorders?

Johnduttonsbuttocks · 28/01/2023 17:15

It's called forced teaming. The harmless gay and lesbian stuff MUST be mixed in with the batshit stuff to give it all credibility.

Giggorata · 28/01/2023 17:18

Well, not quite all , then. Not possible to edit the pic I posted, just wanted to give the general idea of half a zillion new subsections, each more vocal and tiresome than the previous.
And yes, I'm being mean. All out of kindness, after years of this onslaught.

IDontCareMatthew · 28/01/2023 22:52

It won't happen anyway!

LakeTiticaca · 28/01/2023 23:31

Yanbu. This needs to stop. Prison is supposed to be a punishment. They are making a laughing stock of the justice system. Is this " baby" in a women's jail?

BlueBooh · 28/01/2023 23:48

sst1234 · 28/01/2023 10:36

What happens when some perverted dude says he identifies as a six year old and wants to be accommodated in primary school with other children. If you tolerate this, then your children will be next. It will happen and there’s nothing you’ll be able to do about it.

But hey, you must respect other people’s identity and choices and allow them to be who they really are.

Already happening g @sst1234

Some old guy is dressing up in primary school uniforms and hanging outside the school gates. Police (apparently) can't do anything so have warned local girls to around in pairs and get their parents to collect them.

Don't want the old pervert to feel the police are transphobic do we??? Although I'm sure you'd be arrested for a hate crimes if you misgendered him!

Poonicorn · 29/01/2023 00:39

Apparently the police spoke to him and decided he "wasn't a risk" www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.mylondon.news/news/local-news/middle-aged-man-wearing-girls-26031001.amp

Personally I have zero faith in the police deciding that a middle aged man dressed as a schoolgirl in a wig who hangs around a school and goes on the school bus isn't a risk based on a "chat" with him.

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Florenz · 29/01/2023 03:32

It's all a load of bollocks and in a few years, people will look back and shake their heads in wonder about why anyone ever took it seriously. No "preferences", of prisoners, sexual or otherwise should be taken heed of, because they're in prison.

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