Parents stop parking in disabled spaces outside leisure centres

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I am so fed up of people with no blue badge parking outside leisure centres in disabled spaces while they pick up their child. I am sure in their mind they think they are only going to be a minute. But every week we have to wait until a space becomes available and so are late for an activity. Parking further away and walking there is not physically possible, which is why we have a blue badge.

And yes it is always parents doing this, every single time. They come strolling out of the centre with running kids and if I say anything they always claim to have a Blue Badge although they never have one on display. There are three spaces so it is not like this is just one family. So selfish.

@XenoBitch Then PIP does not automatically mean he is entitled to a blue badge. Although the local blue badge scheme may have accepted he is eligible.

I have a friend who has never had any issue with parking, but when BB was opened up to people with MH issues, he automatically got a BB because of the PIP he was on.

I mean, I am happy for him, but it has no made no difference to his life except he can now park in BB spaces.
you have to apply, be assessed and then pay £10 and provide photos etc, I would imagine there are things he’s not sharing with you. No one gets it automatically.

I think you need to tell the venue and they need to monitor it better given its such an issue. Maybe instant fine or something? Unfortunately there are many selfish assholes

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be assessed… No one gets it automatically.

Yes they do. With PIP you are automatically entitled to a blue badge if you get at least 8 points on the moving around criteria. Or if you get 10 points from descriptor E on planning and following a journey.

You also automatically qualify for a blue badge if you receive HRM DLA, are registered blind, receive War Pensioners’ Mobility Supplement or have received a lump sum benefit within tariff levels 1 to 8 of the Armed Forces and Reserve Forces (Compensation) Scheme and have been certified as having a permanent and substantial disability that causes inability to walk or very considerable difficulty in walking.

See the government rules here.

Others may apply and be assessed by their LA.

This happens at our leisure centre too. Like my neighbour needing my parking space because someone parked in his space. Everyone thinks their child trumps a disabled child's needs

Because you can have a BB for reasons other than struggling to walk.

Mental health difficulties can cause mobility difficulties too, but blue badges aren’t all about being able to walk or not.

I find it breathtaking that once again the whatabouttery specialists are out on MN with the “hidden disabilities” within page 1 of this thread.

The blue badge space has CRITERIA. You have to meet that criteria to park in it. if you meet the criteria … hey guess what! You get a badge. You can display it.

If you don’t meet the criteria but unfortunately experience some every day challenges or issues that broadly qualify as disability, that doesn’t give you an automatic moral right to use the space, and therefore you can harrumph at anyone who dares to challenge people without badges.

your line of reasoning is like throwing the barn doors open to all the CF’s who can then state a “hidden disability” as they rush for their Burger Kings.

Honestly … I despair. This thread is about a blue badge holder being denied her right to use the space . Let’s stay focused on topic.

I don't know about pIP,but my son gets the highest rate of mobility under DLA, due to severe mental.impairment and has an automatic, right to.a blue badge ,PIP.criteria are different so I'm not sure ?

My son can walk for miles and has a blue badge.

My don has a blue badge like the poster above due to severe mental impairment (severe autism) he's had a bb since he was 3 years old which is the earliest you can get one. In that time I've had a shopping trolly pushed against my door as I should have been in a parent n child space, had numerous people have a go at me etc. It's funny as soon as they see my son they back off. Plus it's usually oaps. I fully agree it's normally cf's in 4x4's that can't drive or can't be arsed or are just entitled dicks.

At the end of the day you should not be parking in a bb space without a bb. Those that do are denying those who truly need them and are just plain selfish ***.

I'll take a stab in the dark at this, as I have Tinnitus - because they won't be able to hear the cars as they're walking across the carpark.

Of course, if they're hit properly, they then become physically disabled, so I guess it turns out alright for you in the end if you get your wish.

Are blue badges enforceable on private grounds such as leisure centres, supermarkets etc?

friend swears they aren’t. Quite often parks in them as a parent has limited mobility.

My don has a blue badge like the poster above due to severe mental impairment (severe autism) he's had a bb since he was 3 years old which is the earliest you can get one.

This isn't true. A cousin had one as a baby when he was on oxygen.

My grandad had one when he started to go blind. Obviously he wasn't the driver but he was allowed to use it in the car that was transporting him, mainly to hospital appointments and things like that. It meant he didn't have to walk across car parks and things when it was riskier even though he would have enjoyed a little accompanied walk around the shops. And no the driver couldn't have just dropped him off and parked because he would have been worried being on his own in a new environment not able to see.

@pocketvenuss what most people can do in 10 minutes takes me 30 minutes.

Regardless of if you score the right points in the right sections of your PIP assessment (and you can get higher rate mobility and NOT score the points required and in fact score more) STILL you have to apply, be assessed and then pay £10 and provide photos it doesn’t happen automatically, just like you can be entitled to any benefit but still have to claim it and apply and have that application assessed.

You can get one for a baby if you need a lot of equipment to transport them but for ASD I think it’s normally when the average child outgrows their pushchair.

BB spaces on private property are a discretion of the owner not enforceable by the council. In OPs case it’s possible that the leisure centre has given these individuals permission to park there. This certainly happens at our leisure centre as the swimming teachers know who really struggles to get in to lessons.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/blue-badge-can-i-get-one/can-i-get-a-blue-badge

You're cousin may have had a discretionary one perhaps but as you can see automatic entitlement begins at 3.

If you automatically qualify you don’t have to be assessed. You provide proof of automatic qualification with your application and don’t need to be assessed like those who don’t automatically qualify do.

So discretionary then on LA assessment or criteria, like I said?

Except seeing as you haven't applied for one we don't know eithier apply for one or you aren't eligible.

You can't park in one just because you think you deserve it which is what you post shows.

I am very passionate about people parking in these spaces and if you are allowed I have no problem, but this king you are is offensive.

This is a massive issue at ours too.

Quite often I turn up to da swim training to find 75% of spaces taken up.

Ok - there are free ones. But they are the furthest away.

And it's often parents dropping off or just waiting in their cars for their kids to come out.