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Sandydeee · 26/01/2023 13:00

Hello!

summer of last year my ds(6) went to the park with my mum. He was climbing, lost his balance and hit his nose.
I immediately left work and took him straight to the hospital as his nose was swollen. The doctor who seen him said it was more than likely broken but with it being swollen there was nothing they could do- advised to come back in a couple of weeks for them to reassess and to keep an eye on him.
over the next 24 hours he wouldn’t eat or drink and was vomiting. Took him to the Gp and was told it was probably a viral infection- nothing to do with his nose and to take him home.

fast forward to the next day, my son started hallucinating, vomiting and it was harder to keep him awake or for him to take fluids. There was also a yellow fluid coming from his nose.
rang 111 told he needed an emergency ambulance but they wasn’t one so had to get a taxi (which I don’t mind, I understand the current situation of the NHS).
after 12 hours of my son lying on a metal chair out of it, we were advised that he probably has concussion and they were going to keep him in to monitor him.
we were in this hospital 4 days, I kept telling them it was to do with his nose. Please can someone check on his nose- he hadn’t ate or drank and had to be put on a drip. Again, I kept saying it was something to do with his nose and this wasn’t a coincidence. I got told I had health anxiety and was told I should maybes look in to getting some councelling as this was just viral.

they finally took my sons blood and his infection markers were nearly at 100 (someone correct me if I’m wrong as I’m not medically trained, but apparently they should be under 8?). Put him on antibiotics and said he had an infection but they weren’t sure where from. Again I said his nose but they said no. They tried to do a lumbar puncture on him when he was awake as they thought it could be meningitis but couldn’t as he was in to much pain.

on the fourth day a different doctor came and said they had missed something on the scan (he had one when he first got admitted) and it looked like there was something wrong with his nose. He had to be transferred to a specialist hospital and as soon as we got there I was told they were taking him to theatre to do a lumbar puncture as he was seriously unwell and that they would also go into his nose to check the damage.

my son was in theatre 3 hours. Two surgeons came to see me and i Instantly knew it was bad news. They said he had an infection in the fracture in his nose and because it had been left for so long the inside of his nose had totally gone and would probably need rebuilding and they had never seen an injury this severe on a child so small.

he also had sepsis and I was told he might not have made it if we had left him any longer. We were in hospital 2 weeks, I never left his side and he had to undergo another operation and was on IV antibiotics, morphine and something else.

luckily in his second operation they said they had seen a healthy bit of cartilage and his nose wasn’t as bad as they first though- but I won’t know as he has to have checkups and treatment till he is an adult then we will know if it needs any work.

today you can see a difference in his nose but if you didn’t know him I guess you wouldn’t realise, but he has hospital appointments every month to monitor him. He has also been left with separation anxiety and is in my bed every night and can’t be alone.

the two surgeons who effectively saved my son said I need to take this further. They didn’t say how but just said to stop this ever happening again something needs to be done.

I am well aware the NHS is on its arse and I am so, so grateful to the doctors at the second hospital for all that they did for my son and I think I would feel
to guilty if I was to “sue” because doctors are so stretched but then I have people telling me I am just letting them get away with it.

what would you do? And would it BU to take it further?

sorry it’s so long and thank you for reading this far.

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maddy68 · 26/01/2023 13:02

Yes. The surgeon's are telling you to.

maddy68 · 26/01/2023 13:02

Yes. The surgeon's are telling you to.

Brefugee · 26/01/2023 13:04

I think you're looking for advice about how to take this further? I think that would be PALS?

Unicorntastic · 26/01/2023 13:05

Start with a complaint , its not necessarily a case of suing.

Sandydeee · 26/01/2023 13:05

Sorry I’ve probably made no sense in that first post. It was a “what would you do” question and aibu if I was to take it further with the current nhs situation.

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Brefugee · 26/01/2023 13:06

the current situation in the NHS is neither here nor there, it may well have contributed to the less than excellent outcome here.

Definitely take it further.

Slowingdownagain · 26/01/2023 13:07

Do not feel guilty for taking legal action for medical negligence. Just beause the NHS is free at the point of access (but we all pay thorugh NI) doesn't mean they can do a shit job. Bad medical practice will never improve if it doesn't get challenged. If you sue it isn't YOU wasting NHS resources, it's the doctors who did an awful job in the first place. This sounds really serious and as though your son could have died.

Slowingdownagain · 26/01/2023 13:08

And I would engage a medical negligence solicitor. You can presumably do PALs alongside it, but I would get legal advice all the same.

LiveatCityHall · 26/01/2023 13:09

I would absolutely do it, especially as the surgeons are telling you to. You were fobbed off by the first hospital which is unacceptable. I'm so sorry you had to go through this Flowers

Dammitthisisshit · 26/01/2023 13:11

Contact PALS in the first instance to complain.

I hope your son is OK. It sounds like a horrible experience for you both.

Wednesdayonline · 26/01/2023 13:12

Yes go to a solicitor. They will put it through the PALS process first as that is the first step I believe, but your son was let down by the medical professionals and this should be looked into.

funinthesun19 · 26/01/2023 13:16

I wouldn’t keep quiet about this.

It went from as “small” as gaslighting you about having health anxiety, to as big as your son potentially losing his life because they refused to check his nose and listen to you.

He had an accident at the park and then he suddenly fell ill. Hmmm. Surely the doctors in the first hospital have enough common sense to put two and two together and at least rule out the link if it wasn’t that?!

You have to complain. The surgeons are telling you to. The NHS might be on its arse but they still need pulling up on this! Make lots of noise about it.

Ihavekids · 26/01/2023 13:16

It's one thing missing a tiny fracture on an xray, it's entirely another not taking blood for 4 days when there are clear signs of infection. His blood should have been taken on admission to the ward, and the infection would have been picked up more quickly, and he wouldn't have gotten so ill.

I think you have to complain, the process clearly broke down in this instance and there's a chance improvements could prevent same thing happening again.

I had similar experience with my 4yo recently, and by the time bloods were taken his infection markers were at 211. He was extremely poorly. It was terrifying. I didn't have health anxiety then, but I definitely do now.

I'll always insist on blood being taken immediately from now on.

Good luck.

Facecream · 26/01/2023 13:17

100 percent seek legal advice. If you know the doctor/s names I’d also consider a GMC referral but warn you that the GMC rarely does anything.
Ignore the state of the NHS. You could have lost your son and even if the outcome is just further training for the staff involved it is worth it.

Dustyblue · 26/01/2023 13:38

I cannot believe what you went through OP. What a nightmare.

I'm in Oz, so we've Medicare instead of NHS (sort of similar) but bloody right I'd complain. And possibly have an initial consultation with a solicitor who's familiar with medical negligence.

I'd start with the official complaint channels for the hospital/providers and go from there. No need to jump straight to suing, it may not be worth pursuing in the end, but I'd enquire anyway.

So hope your DS is ok. I also have 6 y/o boy and I shuddered reading your post. Big hugs to you both X

buckeejit · 26/01/2023 14:32

How awful. Definitely complain& talk to PALS too

Sandydeee · 26/01/2023 14:34

Thank you all so much for replying.
it Is still very raw but I am deffo going to look into taking it further x

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