To want to tell acquaintance to piss off?

[burgledinParis]

I was at a dinner party with friends and friends of friends yesterday. We were going round the table and all talking about something small we did in 2022 that changed our lives.

A good friend and I both said that we'd gotten tumble driers and that it had been life changing.
Both of us - mid thirties - work very long hours - out of the door round 8 in the morning - often not back in till 9-10pm. Both single, no children. Live in Paris with high mortgages or rent, small spaces, far from perfect sound proofing - which means no putting the washing machine on late so the spin cycle doesn't wake neighbors. For both of us pre tumble drier this meant doing all the washing on weekends and then living in our small apartments with our washing drying taking up half our sitting rooms. Also - you can only do one load at a time and have to wait for it to dry before doing another load. We both basically said that the tumble drier was game changing as it meant we could set our machines to do the washing during the day and pop in tumble drier in the evening thus freeing up weekend time that used to be dedicated to washing and half our sitting rooms.

Acquaintance who lives in a massive inherited apartment and has five children and a wife who doesn't work went on and on and on about how we were ecological sinners, lazy, that the carbon footprint of our tumble driers was poisoning his children and that if that was one of our highpoint of 2022 we were both basically lazy, unorganized, boring fuckers. He was so vehemently agressive about the whole thing and wouldn't let it go. I think his poor wife probably does all the washing .... She wasn't at the dinner party she was looking after the children ...

Not wanting to ruin a lovely dinner party for our hosts I just smiled and gritted my teeth and grinned and made jokes the fact I that I would compost my left overs ... good friend tumble drier owner two had pretty much the same reaction.

Would I be unreasonable the next time I bump into him to tell him that my tumble drier has less of a carbon footprint than any one of his five children, or that I only ever fly for work and get the train for my private holidays where as he talks about multiple shortfall holidays a year, and then tell him he can fuck off if he brings up tumble drier again?

If he does get separated from his wife, please try to club together to get her a tumble dryer. Please. Imagine his face!

This has fuck all to do with your respective eco footprints and everything to do with him being an insecure, grandstanding twat.

I would have ignored him and moved the conversation on.

He's a bore that's all

Missing the real point of this thread, but there is quite a bit of grey area and debate about the environmental impact of a tumble dryer vs drying inside in the winter. The moisture caused by indoor drying means that heating has to be increased in order to compensate, even with heated airers. So it's not cut and dry that tumble dryers are evil.

I presume with 5 kids his washing and overall consumption is pretty heavy compared to yours, even with a tumble dryer!

Obviously drying outside in the sun/wind is ideal.

@Soubriquet @ComeTheSpringLobelia

He send a handwritten apology letter I found it in my letterbox when I go home!

No flowers, no nudist proposals.

I think the letter might have been half dictated to him but it seems truthful and heartfelt and I'm inclined to fully forgive him.

That is nice.

I am glad he did that. It would be a better world if everyone who is a twat was able to reflect and apologise like that.

Oh what a nice unexpected resolution!

I am very pleased about the note, and you were not being unreasonable at all - Tumble dryer has Completely revolutionised my life - we moved to a slightly cheaper city and now have a utility room and a brand new pretty energy efficient tumble dryer and not only has it saved a HUGE amount of time, but everything smells good (clothes, house), I can spontaneously invite people in for a coffee without leaving them on the door step whilst I rush round and gather up the still damp but now crispy pants / jeans / towels that have been out for three days, no longer need to pay to run dehumidifier or heated airer … it’s bliss and he was a horrible man with issues… not surprised he is getting divorced (or has turned to cocaine..) 😂

Youre making me want to move to Paris. Apparetments in the city, dinner parties, hand written notes. Bloody love that city.

and a cordless dyson. What more do you want?

He would have annoyed me too but what I don't understand is why pre tumble dryer you couldn't have washed during the day as you do now then hang out to dry when you got home. That's what we do.

Ooh, I’d have been fuming. Sounds just like my sister and brother in law though. They go on about how much they want to save the planet yet they sky dive regularly, plus go in a wind tunnel. Live in a grade 2 listed property which can’t be insulated and drive a diesel car. They also have 3 foreign holidays a year. We, on the other hand, live in an insulated new build, drive an EV holiday abroad once a year and have one or two U.K. breaks where we often use the train. They’re so unbelievably hypocritical!

@gogohmm because I get home round 9pm most evenings and that means the spin cycle would be going at 11pm ish - by which time it would be noice too late for the neighbors to do on a regular basis ( the flats have 0 sound insulation) and also I just want to crash into bed most evenings...

Someone this dumb won't get it so I wouldn't waste my breath. If it brings it up again though, let him have it.5 kids and going on about the environment 🤡🤦‍♀️

Also do you know you can get a washer & dryer in one? So it will wash your clothes, then dry in the same machine

@baffledcoconut The cost of living here is crippling and the city pretty dirty! From time to time I get home in the middle of the night by taking a taxi and do still marvel at how beautiful it is though... the metro in rush hour less so

WOW!!!!

Where to start.

Firstly, the worst thing you can do for the environment is bring too many children into the world. Your driers will not even come close to offering the damage of him producing his crotch goblins

Secondly, I bet you my life he doesn’t have to worry about the washing. I bet his wife would love a dryer, and her pompous arsehole husband won’t ‘let’ her

Thirdly this sounds like such a sweet conversation, I always get excited about other people’s white goods 🤣 he’s an arrogant rude arsehole, I’d be tempted to actually message him directly

What an arse.

I wouldn't waste your energy on him.

Crotch goblins, what rhe actual fuck.

Why on earth would you give that aggressive twat your address?

So what if he has been shamed into sending you flowers, he sounds utterly uncouth.

Coke sounds about right, no wonder the host is pissed.

I’m glad he apologised OP

He's not normally a twat?;he doesn't work,lives off someone else's money,let's his wife do the grunt work of raising 5 kids and snorts Coke;sounds like a twat to me.

I hope the wife is indeed divorcing this entitled arse and takes him to the cleaners.

YABU to let him get to you like that.
When a dog barks at you, do you bark back?

Yanbu but he's an ill-mannered branleur. Don't even respond to his nonsense next time.

Next time you see him politely remark that you, as a childless person, could run your tumble dryer 24hours a day and still have less impact on the environment than him for having FIVE kids.

Insufferable twat. Don't let him get to you.