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A medium chicken out of asda, guess how much??

276 replies

ssd · 23/01/2023 22:56

Honestly, i nearly landed on my arse

OP posts:
sanityisamyth · 24/01/2023 10:39

Different transport costs? Local abattoir costs? Local farming costs. I'd still say that less than £7 is not much for the life of a chicken.

LisaLovedUp · 24/01/2023 10:39

But surely, even for a family of 4, you can get 2 meals out of that?

One roast dinner, and then make the carcass into stock and use it for risotto or a chicken soup with veg and beans?

If you got 8 meals from it, that's about 80p per person, per meal.

I refuse to buy any chicken that is not free range as the rearing conditions are just dire. I paid £10 for a free range medium one this week. For two of us, we will get 3 meals out of it. So that's about £1.50 a head. Cheaper than a cheap burger.

HeavenIsAHalfpipe · 24/01/2023 10:40

@Poppingboba

The chairman of Tesco was hinting this week that food manufacturers are deliberately inflating their prices.
Not Tesco themselves , of course.

I actually 100% believe this.

HeavenIsAHalfpipe · 24/01/2023 10:40

Yeah, £6.50 in Morrisons. Was £4.50 pre pandemic. Like everything else, it's gone up hugely.

Personally, whilst I know, and understand that shit has gone up, I don't believe for a moment that everything should have gone up as much as it has, and believe strongly that we are all being mugged off.

2 rolls of name-brand kitchen roll was £6.00 a couple of months ago. Used to be £4.00. Fucking scandalous, and taking advantage of millions of people who have got very little money, let alone surplus money. Everything is stupid expensive now in many shops and it's making me furious.

Yet places like Aldi and Lidl, seem to do stuff for about 30-40% cheaper.

So it shows it CAN be done. We're being mugged off, I'm telling ya. And it's disgusting, because not everyone has an Aldi or Lidl closeby, and these shops don't sell absolutely everything everyone wants.

Call me paranoid, or a conspiracy theorist if you want. I am neither.

ssd · 24/01/2023 10:40

I agree with you @AstrAstralitzia , im not a big meat eater but dh and dc like it, i don't think about whats involved before the chicken gets to asda, i should really.
I was just really shocked at the increase in price.

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LisaLovedUp · 24/01/2023 10:42

There is a chicken shortage because of the bird flu.

I think it's better to accept that the days of cheap chicken are over. We are going back to the old days when a chicken was a luxury.

I'd rather do without and cook vegetarian than buy a chicken that is not free range or organic, as the breeding conditions are just awful and they are also tasteless.

Lockheart · 24/01/2023 10:45

HeavenIsAHalfpipe · 24/01/2023 10:40

Yeah, £6.50 in Morrisons. Was £4.50 pre pandemic. Like everything else, it's gone up hugely.

Personally, whilst I know, and understand that shit has gone up, I don't believe for a moment that everything should have gone up as much as it has, and believe strongly that we are all being mugged off.

2 rolls of name-brand kitchen roll was £6.00 a couple of months ago. Used to be £4.00. Fucking scandalous, and taking advantage of millions of people who have got very little money, let alone surplus money. Everything is stupid expensive now in many shops and it's making me furious.

Yet places like Aldi and Lidl, seem to do stuff for about 30-40% cheaper.

So it shows it CAN be done. We're being mugged off, I'm telling ya. And it's disgusting, because not everyone has an Aldi or Lidl closeby, and these shops don't sell absolutely everything everyone wants.

Call me paranoid, or a conspiracy theorist if you want. I am neither.

You're being mugged off if you're buying kitchen roll full stop. Get some clothes or cut up old clothes for rags, chuck them in with the rest of your laundry.

Lockheart · 24/01/2023 10:46

*cloths and cut up old clothes

ivykaty44 · 24/01/2023 10:47

I purchased a large chicken at Christmas as we don't like turkey, it was £5.60 at Sainsbury

Id not buy a medium or small chicken if I can help it, as the carcus is the same size as a small or medium and you get much more meat ratio for your money for a larger chicken

LisaLovedUp · 24/01/2023 10:48

They are bred in huge sheds and often fed growth promoters. There are usually 40,000 to 50,000 chickens in a broiler.

This means they get big breasts but very thin legs as they cannot roam.

Some are fed lots of antibiotics as the conditions in these massive sheds promote disease. They are so cramped that there is barely room to walk.

Sometimes they peck each other as they are frustrated with so little space. Dead birds are often left to lie in amongst the live ones, until they can be removed.

I know this as fact as one of my family used to visit chicken broilers for work.

Ifailed · 24/01/2023 10:48

Some families can't afford to be picky about the welfare of their meat though.

Yes they can. There are plenty of expensive food items I can't afford, so I don't buy them. If you want cheap animal protein that hasn't been produced in an unnatural environment, try something like mackerel.

ilovesooty · 24/01/2023 10:48

ancientgran · 24/01/2023 09:44

It used to be, when I was a child in the 50s chicken was something special for high days and holidays.

I'm younger than you but chicken was a luxury when I was a child too. If we ate meat in the week it was cheap stewing cuts or liver.

If people depend on cheap chicken as an everyday item without giving a toss about animal welfare that's a shame.

This thread has made me think. I don't buy a whole chicken often but I don't think I'll buy a cheap one again. I'll buy a responsibly raised one and buy it even less often than I do now. There are plenty of other things to eat that provide protein and are a lot cheaper even if you're on a restricted budget.

LisaLovedUp · 24/01/2023 10:49

i don't think about whats involved before the chicken gets to asda, i should really.

@ssd My post about what happens to chickens was for you.

MrsClatterbuck · 24/01/2023 10:51

user1471453601 · 23/01/2023 23:05

I know. Daughter went to Timpsons to get the battery changed on my watch. £24:95 🤔.

Wow I got one changed last week for £5 but they are closing down. I have a lot of watches so may have to rethink. Someone my dh knows well and had a shop used to do them for about £3 but they have retired. I went to our local jewellers and they charged £7.50 about 5 years ago. Will maybe find out what they charge now.

JobSearchStress · 24/01/2023 10:52

I don't understand why people buy whole chickens all the time. They take up to 2 hours in the oven, when you can bake chicken breasts or thighs in 30 mins and they usually cost cheaper than a whole one.

I only buy a roast chicken when I know I am going to then use it for stock.

Greatly · 24/01/2023 10:53

LisaLovedUp · 24/01/2023 10:48

They are bred in huge sheds and often fed growth promoters. There are usually 40,000 to 50,000 chickens in a broiler.

This means they get big breasts but very thin legs as they cannot roam.

Some are fed lots of antibiotics as the conditions in these massive sheds promote disease. They are so cramped that there is barely room to walk.

Sometimes they peck each other as they are frustrated with so little space. Dead birds are often left to lie in amongst the live ones, until they can be removed.

I know this as fact as one of my family used to visit chicken broilers for work.

Yes I try not to be judgmental but I hate that people buy and support this.

TheChosenTwo · 24/01/2023 10:53

@JobSearchStress i buy a whole chicken every week - why would it taking 2 hours in the oven (which is doesn’t) stop me buying it?

Greatly · 24/01/2023 10:54

JobSearchStress · 24/01/2023 10:52

I don't understand why people buy whole chickens all the time. They take up to 2 hours in the oven, when you can bake chicken breasts or thighs in 30 mins and they usually cost cheaper than a whole one.

I only buy a roast chicken when I know I am going to then use it for stock.

Do you really 'not understand'?

JobSearchStress · 24/01/2023 10:56

I think we need to look deeper into cutting our food costs. The CEO of Tescos has already said that some companies are just taking the piss and jumping on the cost increase bandwagon. Good on him.

I have started to buy cheaper cuts and cook them in my slow cooker. In my local supermarket they have 20% meat on a Sat and I bought 4 lamb shanks, cooked them for 8 hours in tin toms and herbs and my family said it was the best meal ever. The lamb shanks were about £3 each. I had a shin of beef the other week. It looked like a tough old boot, but after 8 hours, it cut through like butter.

HRTQueen · 24/01/2023 10:56

It’s all very well telling people to think about animal welfare but people still want to fed their families on food the family like that was affordable before buying organic just isn’t possible for many to consider.

of course the supermarkets will be still keeping their shareholders happy and making profits

I can’t get over how much toiletries have increased in price even in Poundland shampoo especially

abigailsnan · 24/01/2023 10:56

£3.50 at Waitrose last Saturday which got me 2 x Sunday Roast dinners,sandwich for Monday lunch stripped for soup for to-day and meals for Oliver my cat for the next 2 days so well worth the money.

VestaTilley · 24/01/2023 10:58

That’s not an unreasonable price. Chicken used to be expensive and rarely eaten. We’ve got used to unnaturally low food prices for too long - the farmers have been receiving bugger all for years because of supermarket greed.

Industrialised farming, which keeps prices low, isn’t nice either for the poor birds. A £6 chicken is still reasonable and you should still be able to get 6-8 servings from it.

TheChosenTwo · 24/01/2023 11:00

LisaLovedUp · 24/01/2023 10:48

They are bred in huge sheds and often fed growth promoters. There are usually 40,000 to 50,000 chickens in a broiler.

This means they get big breasts but very thin legs as they cannot roam.

Some are fed lots of antibiotics as the conditions in these massive sheds promote disease. They are so cramped that there is barely room to walk.

Sometimes they peck each other as they are frustrated with so little space. Dead birds are often left to lie in amongst the live ones, until they can be removed.

I know this as fact as one of my family used to visit chicken broilers for work.

I watched a programme years ago about battery chickens where they were so heavy but weak in the legs from artificially being forced to grow meaty so quickly that their legs basically collapsed and they then had to sit and their knees would burn with the amonia of their own waste. Devastating. disgusting and inhumane. I couldn’t bring myself to buy one of those chickens even when we were truly skint, we went without until we were feeling a bit more flush.

Iamthewombat · 24/01/2023 11:01

Yet places like Aldi and Lidl, seem to do stuff for about 30-40% cheaper.

So it shows it CAN be done. We're being mugged off, I'm telling ya. And it's disgusting, because not everyone has an Aldi or Lidl close by, and these shops don't sell absolutely everything everyone wants

Can you see that you have answered your own question? Aldi and Lidl carry a much smaller range than the four big supermarkets. That’s one of the ways they keep costs down. You must see that? I couldn’t do a full shop at Aldi or Lidl because they don’t have everything I want. I like having lots of choice, particularly of fresh food, and that’s what I’m paying for In Morrisons or Sainsbury’s. Bigger range = more waste to be sold off cheaply = bigger costs = higher prices.

JobSearchStress · 24/01/2023 11:03

why would it taking 2 hours in the oven (which is doesn’t) stop me buying it?

An oven is second only to a tumble dryer in energy consumption, so baking for 30 mins is obviously better than 1.5-2hours to cook a chicken.

Do you really 'not understand'

Greatly, You need to grow up. Who the hell talks to people like that. You must be really immature.