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Breastfed baby wake-ups

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overwroughtmummy · 15/01/2023 11:48

Our son is now almost 14 months old and I returned to work just before his first birthday. Before I’d even had the baby and throughout my maternity leave my wife was adamant that I should do all the night time wake ups because she was working and because I’m breastfeeding. So I did that plus the childcare of our older children from previous relationships.

Initially this was okay, I was establishing breastfeeding and our son was a pretty good sleeper anyway. However, around nine months his sleep really went down the toilet with a minimum of three wake ups on a good night and waking up every 45 minutes on a bad one. Despite multiple pleas from me to have some help at night my wife has remained adamant that this was the price of being the one on maternity leave.

When I went back to work nothing changed. She half heartedly attempted to comfort him a couple of times but handed him back after just a few minutes while he ramped up. Now I am told that I’ve created a situation where only I can comfort him because I am still breastfeeding and am being pressured to wean. I think she’s created this situation by not helping at all for twelve months and barely even trying after that. Why would our son suddenly be okay with being comforted by his other mum when night after night for all his life it’s been me?

I don’t want to wean. Breastfeeding works for us and I don’t want to traumatise him by suddenly withdrawing the only thing he knows for getting to sleep. Especially when he’s still too young for any sort of gentle sleep training. When he was younger I pumped and stored milk in the freezer so she could bottle feed our son sometimes, but my wife tried to give him a bottle a handful of times and gave up when he got cross. He happily took a bottle at nursery during the day until he was better about eating solids and takes a bottle at night when my parents babysit. I no longer have a freezer stash but could try to build one if I thought she’d use it to help me out at night.


I’ve now been back at work for two months with a very welcome break over Christmas where my mother in law saw how wrung out I am and my wife was guilted into letting me nap in the day for a couple of afternoons. But there is still no night time help. She won’t even get up with him in the
morning when he just wants to be up and about and breastfeeding doesn’t even come into it. Part of me thinks maybe I should wean just to force her to step up and also see that stopping breastfeeding isn’t actually the magic bullet she thinks it is, but I don’t think that putting my son through that and ending a part of motherhood I love just for a petty “gotcha” is really the best idea.


My wife does help in many other ways, she does almost all of the laundry and the majority of the cleaning, but while that takes work off my plate it doesn’t get me more sleep at night. If I try to bring up the night time wake ups I just get reminded of everything she does and how I have it so much better than single mums or straight women and this may or may not be true but it’s sleep that I need right now. I can’t fix my sleep issues on my own, but I can wash my knickers and clean the loo. My mental health generally isn’t great and sleep deprivation isn’t helping. I just feel myself getting more and more angry and resentful, but also less rational because a lack of sleep isn’t great for anyone’s cognitive powers.


Am I being unreasonable? Should the one on maternity leave just suck it up and do the night shift? If I stop breastfeeding will my wife be better able to settle our son at night. Is the current situation actually my fault for persisting with breastfeeding beyond a year?

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ClubhouseGift · 15/01/2023 11:57

YANBU. Your wife is being really selfish and has caused this situation.

We were EBF and I’m still feeding DD now she’s 2, but DH always helped with night wakes even when she was a newborn.

It’s no excuse.

QuertyGirl · 15/01/2023 12:00

It's possible to night wean and still breastfeed during the day.

We did it at 8 months and I continued till he was 18 months.

It will need to be your wife that does it though.

linziere · 15/01/2023 12:01

I'm still breastfeeding my 16 month old DD and like you returned to work just after she turned 1. Me and my DH split the night wakings. We both work, it's only fair. He's her dad as much as I'm her mother, he needs to be able to comfort her at night too. He also does absolutely all of the cooking, I do the laundry and we split everything else.

You've not caused the situation by BF - it took some trying on my DH's part to make sure he could comfort the baby to sleep and sometimes I have to step in but sometimes I struggle and have to get him to have a go.

Keep BF if that's what you want to do. Your wife needs to pull her weight on the night wakes.

BabyMoonPie · 15/01/2023 12:02

Sleep deprivation is horrendous so i can empathise. I have breastfed 2 children so I did the majority of nights because my husband couldn't BUT he would take them both after they had fed in the evening so I could sleep and when they woke up for another feed I would take over. It's not fair to do nothing in the night at all - you're in this together! - and you're working too (although raising a baby is work). DD2 is nearly 13 months and only breastfeeding once at bedtime so I can't offer any practical suggestions other than suggesting you speak to someone like HomeStart or La Leche League who may be able to offer practical advice on weaning

ClubhouseGift · 15/01/2023 12:03

QuertyGirl · 15/01/2023 12:00

It's possible to night wean and still breastfeed during the day.

We did it at 8 months and I continued till he was 18 months.

It will need to be your wife that does it though.

Night weaning is not recommended until 18 months minimum.

QuertyGirl · 15/01/2023 12:05

@ClubhouseGift

Really? Why?

Is this a recent change?

PifandHercule · 15/01/2023 12:05

I also have a 14 month old baby that is still breastfed. I’ve been back at work 3 days a week for a few months and have no intention of weaning as we both enjoy the connection and BF has soooo many benefits for both mummy and baby.
The baby wakes up at least 3/4 times per night and during peak teething it’s even more often than that so it has been challenging at times.
What works for us is the fact that we co sleep and have done since the birth which means I breasfeed laying on one side so I can go back to sleep very quickly after the feed.
I know that there are many people against co sleeping but it’s worked for us very well. We ensured a safe sleeping environment free of pillows, duvets, blankets etc when he was a newborn and kept up the same measures now that he is 14 months.
Your partner sounds very unsuportive which isn’t great….good luck op!

ClubhouseGift · 15/01/2023 12:07

QuertyGirl · 15/01/2023 12:05

@ClubhouseGift

Really? Why?

Is this a recent change?

Because they aren’t able to understand why until at least 18 months, and sleep is developmental.

kathrynstaggibclc.com/2018/11/02/gentle-night-weaning/amp/

DashboardConfessional · 15/01/2023 12:08

"The price" of being on maternity leave (hardest job I ever had) is being the one who needs to recover from birth. It's not that there were 2 partners who could have had mat leave because they are both women.

QuertyGirl · 15/01/2023 12:12

@ClubhouseGift

Oh well, mine was fine!

I'm not talking about CIO or controlled crying, just offering a cuddle and a drink of water instead of the breast. This of course assumes the baby is eating well (mine was).

Sleep improved massively after that with occasional night wakes (with cuddles)

CecilyP · 15/01/2023 12:13

ClubhouseGift · 15/01/2023 12:07

Because they aren’t able to understand why until at least 18 months, and sleep is developmental.

kathrynstaggibclc.com/2018/11/02/gentle-night-weaning/amp/

So the full sentence in your link is, ‘Night weaning is generally not recommended until after 18 months by most Gentle Parenting experts.’

Don't think a baby’s understanding why varies much between 17 and 18 months but they can get used to the new reality.

ClubhouseGift · 15/01/2023 12:13

QuertyGirl · 15/01/2023 12:12

@ClubhouseGift

Oh well, mine was fine!

I'm not talking about CIO or controlled crying, just offering a cuddle and a drink of water instead of the breast. This of course assumes the baby is eating well (mine was).

Sleep improved massively after that with occasional night wakes (with cuddles)

You can never know yours was “fine” because you can never know what developmental damage has been done.

I know you’re not talking about CIO or anything like that. That doesn’t matter. It’s not recommended because it’s developmentally damaging.

QuertyGirl · 15/01/2023 12:14

@ClubhouseGift

What does it damage?

WineDup · 15/01/2023 12:17

ClubhouseGift · 15/01/2023 12:13

You can never know yours was “fine” because you can never know what developmental damage has been done.

I know you’re not talking about CIO or anything like that. That doesn’t matter. It’s not recommended because it’s developmentally damaging.

This baby already has a bottle of expressed breast milk at nursery, ops wife could either give a bottle if expressed breast milk during the night, or a bottle of cows milk. Let the other mum sleep.

ClubhouseGift · 15/01/2023 12:18

QuertyGirl · 15/01/2023 12:14

@ClubhouseGift

What does it damage?

Brain development. Hence you will never know what damage was done.

QuertyGirl · 15/01/2023 12:19

@ClubhouseGift

By what mechanism?

youshouldnthaveasked · 15/01/2023 12:20

If you are both working then absolutely your wife should be stepping up and helping with the night time comforting of your baby.

I empathise. I stopped breastfeeding my youngest at 18 months and it was a natural end. Hope things improve soon

WineDup · 15/01/2023 12:21

ClubhouseGift · 15/01/2023 12:18

Brain development. Hence you will never know what damage was done.

Conversely, you’ll never know what benefits it brings either.

ClubhouseGift · 15/01/2023 12:27

QuertyGirl · 15/01/2023 12:19

@ClubhouseGift

By what mechanism?

The connections of healthy neural pathways.

If you are concerned about possible damage you are welcome to look it up. It’s not up to me to do the research for you because you didn’t bother when you nightweaned your kids.

ClubhouseGift · 15/01/2023 12:27

WineDup · 15/01/2023 12:21

Conversely, you’ll never know what benefits it brings either.

Long term research and brain scans show otherwise.

Flurbegurb · 15/01/2023 12:29

Pretty sure getting decent quality uninterrupted sleep is extremely important for baby's brain development but hey ho.

Emmamoo89 · 15/01/2023 12:32

You can night wean at 12 months with no complications

WineDup · 15/01/2023 12:33

ClubhouseGift · 15/01/2023 12:27

Long term research and brain scans show otherwise.

Correlation does not equal causation.

nobody is condoning cry it out, but there is no difference between a baby having a bottle of expressed milk than a baby being fed directly from the breast.

Please provide evidence that a baby being bottle fed breast milk through the night will damage their brains.

Emmamoo89 · 15/01/2023 12:33

Some babies naturally wean before that tho and its okay. Not going to cause any damage.

WineDup · 15/01/2023 12:35

Emmamoo89 · 15/01/2023 12:33

Some babies naturally wean before that tho and its okay. Not going to cause any damage.

I best get my babies brains checked, my eldest slept through every night since 4 weeks and my youngest slept through from 10 weeks. They must both just have a plate of spaghetti in there.