To ask for your help in working out what sort of pay rise to ask for?

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I’m a designer in the NW, early 40’s a degree and over 20 years experience.

My reviews are always ‘exceeding expectations’. I work hard and can turn my hand to any brief I get, but my pay doesn’t reflect that at all.

I’ve been in this job for 8 years now. I was full time - 35hrs and was on £32k when I started.

In my first year was given a £1k pay rise.
so full time £33k. Since then I’ve dropped to 26hrs and had no pay rise until last year when I got I think a 1 or 2% rise.

It’s just not good enough and I’m trying to figure out what would be an acceptable rise to try and negotiate. I’m currently on £25k.

And yes I will move job this year if I need to as my youngest starts school.

So if you're on £25k for 26 hours your currently on £35 k pro rata full time wage.

I would definitely think that's a small rise over 8 years but without knowing the norm in your industry or company its hard to suggest whats acceptable. Have you checked what similar positions are paying?

It does sound like they're conservative with payrises maybe start at 10% and see what reaction that gets they may knock you down to 5%.

First of all, be sure of your facts - go through your previous payslips to determine exactly what you've been paid, and what your full time equivalent is.

Then perhaps consider what inflation has been for each year since you started working, and apply an inflationary rise since you began to see how that compares with your current position. You should be able to ask for at least that as a rise as the minimum.

Next, have you taken on any additional responsibilities, or has your role changed? If so, highlight why you should be paid more for those responsibilities/changes.

Finally, benchmark yourself against the market, what are others being paid for similar roles? Perhaps have a range of salaries and consider where you sit in that range - with your experience, should you be at the tope of the range, or is there more work you could do to improve your abilities/qualifications?

Good luck.

@DDivaStar @EmmaStone Thanks so much. That’ll give me a starting point The industry varies really wildly it’s really difficult to know where to pitch. They know I can cover all roles in my dept so def room for some negotiating. Even a 2 or 3% rise per year would have been something.

You're on an equivalent of £36k if you were full time 37.5 hours. Have you nosed on indeed and seen what jobs like yours are paid at full time? I would have thought more than £36k, maybe £40k+. But even if they increased to £40k that would still only be £27.7k on your 26 hours.

I didnt mean to say "only".....£27.7k is a great wage so I never meant it like that. What I mean was it would be £2.7k more than now, but I was reading your original message thinking you were looking for more x

@Happin thanks, at this point any increase would make a difference. I’m looking to go back full time in sept once my youngest starts school.

I'd definitely be asking for a payrise though. Look around on indeed and see what's like for like, if you're asking for more than the going rate then it's easier for them to knock you back. But asking to be brought in line with others is not unreasonable to ask for x

You are on 36.4K pro rota, as others have said look at what you could earn if you moved and go from there. If there’s similar jobs paying 10% more you could ask for an increase of say 5% or just apply for one of them.
There is a fair chance you won’t get a decent rise where you work and you’ll need to move to get one.

Been looking around, average range is £24 to £50k so should be some wiggle room.

You must have got another rise at some point as your full time wage is currently 36.4K.

Ask for 10% and be open to negotiation. It wouldn’t be unreasonable at all with inflation etc.

@AWomanKnows they are just rough figures. But def only had the pay rise in year 1 and year 7, which amount to not very much.

@AWomanKnows if all hours were full time, shes received a £1772 payrise in 8 years. That's 5% total increase in 8 years. Its pretty crap!

AWomanKnows if all hours were full time, shes received a £1772 payrise in 8 years. That's 5% total increase in 8 years. Its pretty crap!
I agree.

Someone who was on min wage 8 years ago and still on min wage now has gone up by £5850. Maybe even quote that as some food for thought. Your increases have been awful x

You need to look at what equivalent jobs are offering. Not just equivalent job titles, but similar location, whether it's in-house/agency, similar responsibilities.

What sort of design role is it? I'm in the sector and unless you're in digital (UI/UX) then wages haven't really increased. For web design, graphic design, or industrial design 36K in the NW sounds about right.

Even if £35k is around the market rate. With 8 years at the company, your knowledge is valuable and hiring/training can be costly. So ask for a pay review, suggesting around 10%

@Happin that’s a really interesting figure which I will def use.

@kegofcoffee it’s mainly graphic design for print, a little bit of digital and photography art direction. It’s a massive advertising agency so just really disappointing we don’t get recompensed properly.

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If you're working for an advertising agency with large clients then I'd definitely be pushing for a payrise.