Striking teachers eroding good will?

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I’ve had to take unpaid leave to cover strike days. So my wages will be down £170
or so this month. Im not well off and that money means going without for a couple of months to make it back up.

I do normally donate time when I can for sports day/ Christmas fair/ bottle for raffle/ baking/ buy school calendar/ bag/ mug with childrens art on.

I got an email to do something for the PPG and is it unreasonable to think that really the school have used up the discretionary time/ money budget for the foreseeable future.

IABU - Suck it up and support the school

YANBU - Parents are having a tough enough time, PPG should delay fundraising, requesting volunteers for stuff.

Lololololololol what goodwill?

The majority of the public, and parents in particular, put teacher somewhere between a cockroach and a piece of dog shit. Couple that with ever increasing workloads, bureaucracy, and pay deflation and this is the inevitable result.

At least there are still enough teachers who care about education to strike. If nothing is done to change the situation then the next stage will be the complete collapse of the education system. The you'll really have something to moan about.

Fundraising benefits the children - not the teachers.

These strikes are in Scotland so it's the SNP bogeyman.

The issue of whether you choose to contribute time and effort to raising money for your own dc's education is entirely separate to the rights of teachers to strike over their pay and conditions.

I thought the Welsh NHS budget was set by UK parliament not the Senedd?

You do realise the devolved governments have their budgets set by Westminster and that these have been systematically and deliberately underfunded like all government/public services right?

While the SNPs management of education in terms of bureaucracy and delivery leave a lot to be desired they've done a pretty good job of protecting Scottish services from the tories rabid austerity.

The incompetence and corruption of the Tory government in Westminster, Austerity, Brexit Covid, Trussterfuck economics has cost the entire UK dearly.

Not just England.

@Thebestwaytoscareatory

You do realise the devolved governments have their budgets set by Westminster and that these have been systematically and deliberately underfunded like all government/public services right?

Incorrect Scotland sets its own budget including higher rates of tax

While the SNPs management of education in terms of bureaucracy and delivery leave a lot to be desired they've done a pretty good job of protecting Scottish services from the tories rabid austerity

You are joking right?

Cause the evidence says otherwise

Your annoyance is misplaced, although understandable.
YANBU to not want to volunteer, though. Don't if you don't want to.

Workers do not go on strike for shits and giggles. Striking is a very last resort by people who have reached the end of their tether. I am sick to death of people trying to shame workers for taking industrial action. It's not the teachers who are responsible for your inconvenience the same as it is not striking NHS workers who are responsible for impact to patients. The blame lies squarely with the employers (i.e. the government) for completely failing to offer reasonable terms and conditions.

Great post @WalkingThroughTreacle

No, not incorrect. The devolved governments are given a budget to run devolved services including education. This budget is set by Westminster, not by the devolved governments.

Scotland has relatively recently been given some additional tax raising powers such as the ability to set income tax rates (but only for some forms of income). These powers have been used to raise additional revenue (around £600m this year I believe), which is going to help protect Scottish public services from tory budget cuts. You might think our public services are badly funded in Scotland buy they'd be 100 times worse if we were fully at the mercy of Westminster.

I completely support the teachers .Stop and think about why all the people are striking ffs

@Thebestwaytoscareatory I am well aware how the Scottish Government get their topline budget. They also have tax raising powers which are now in use. The fact is that they then set their own budget and priorities - this is where the gross mismanagement (in my opinion) comes in. Both the Scottish NHS and the Scottish education system are in crisis due to the decisions of the Scottish Government on how that money is spent -loads of headline-making, "let's have a jolly press conference" ideas which, in reality, suck the budget dry. The basics are, as a result, underfunded and poorly managed. The state of Scottish education and Scottish NHS is on the Scottish SNP government not Westminster regardless of how hard they try to deflect the responsibility back to the Tories. Not defending the rUk government btw, just pointing out that Scotland had its own shit show.

I support them, as I support all the other public sector strikes. Yes it'll cost me more to put dd into childcare for the day. This is about something much bigger than me, or my family.

Surely a 'budget cut' is entirely fair for a country that costs £15 billion more than it contributes?

That's a solid quarter of the amount that Liz Truss supposedly managed to 'bankrupt the UK with', every year.

What good will? People on here generally have pretty shitty attitudes towards teachers.

The reasons the fundraisers are needed is because the school budgets have been stretched to breaking point so the fundraisers are needed to help them keep things going. That’s not the fault of the teachers!

Hmm, how about the teachers, who are also down in their pay packet this month, who give up countless hours of their own time towards things beneficial for other people’s children?
Schools would be screwed if they lost teacher’s good will and they worked to rule.

The solution to 'there isn't enough money for schools' is apparently to 'make schools' cost more'???

This limited thinking only puts us further in the hole by shelving the problem for another year (when there will no doubt be another strike).

It will cost EVERYONE more to do EVERYTHING, but you can afford it and you're happy to pay it, so that's OK!

First I am sorry that you are stuggling financially. If the government had funded the payrise they suggested I dont think these strikes would have happened.

You cant contribute to fundraising if you dont have enough and in your situation I wouldnt, but i think the phrasing 'for the school'is a bit off. Its for the current cohort of children. Its not for the staff who will just teach with crapper materials or no trips or not develop the sandpit.

I do agree that requests for money should be carefully timed and there are many who simply cant afford to join in.

I think schools should be properly funded in the first place though.

Does the same go for all the other counties/regions in the UK that contribute a net deficits to the UK public purse? Only London, the South East and East of England are consistent net contributors. All the others are in deficit year in, year out and the North West and the West Midlands routinely post larger net deficits than Scotland. Yet people seem to conveniently forget that in their eagerness to give Scotland a kicking.

Nobody is forgetting anything. Regions of a country are not the same as countries.

Also, I'd hardly define pointing out a simple economic fact as a kicking. People use 'paying their fair share' all the time when discussing taxes, why can we not apply this to countries as well?

100% this.

Depends whether you want actual qualified teachers educating your kids? Poor pay and conditions are causing an exodus of staff who can't be replaced