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Should I feel guilty re my narcissistic mother?

21 replies

OnedayIwillfeelfree · 08/01/2023 17:18

I try and be brief, but I want to avoid drip feeding.

My Mother is a casebook narcissist. All my life everything has been about her. Despite trying to please her all my life, I finally realise I never will. Every opportunity she puts me down, and is critical of everything I do. She bullied my Dad who had a merciful release from her domineering a few years ago. I remember I made a cake and took about 10 hours decorating it. I won first prize in the competition and all she could say was ‘I can see what you were trying to achieve’. I raised over £2500 last year by doing a sponsored swim, three years before that £3000 for GOSH and not once could she say I’m proud of you. Every Christmas or birthday present was rubbished. If I sent her flowers, she would take great delight in telling me they died too soon. For all intents and purposes we were the perfect family. Being taken to stately homes etc, reading books, learning musical interests, trying to make out she was the perfect mother. She has few friends left now, as I think most of them got tired of her domineering personality and having to be the centre of attention.

I have two sisters (one older, one younger) and she has played divide and rule since we were knee high. Playing one off against the other until I walked away from my sisters a few years ago. No row or anything, we just didn’t contact each other, and any chance Mother had would try to widen that divide. Too much toxicity. My elder sister is pretty much the same as my Mother. My Mother would delight in running me down to both of them.

She has now been diagnosed with vascular dementia. She is in hospital at the moment, waiting to go into a home. Her house will need to be sold to pay for this. I have made every effort to make the 4hour round train trip to see her, on every day off I had.

A few days ago my sister announced that her and my younger sister had joint power of attorney to deal with her affairs. She had gone to a solicitors with my two sisters to arrange this, and none of them heaven had the guts to tell me. My Mother obviously doesn’t trust me to do anything for her, yet she was quite happy for me to all her shopping throughout lockdown and since. I never minded doing it, and every shop I could add some flowers and other treats to her delivery. I rang her local newsagents and arranged to have some magazines and a weekly paper delivery for her (at my cost) so she could keep up to date with things. (She is not online at all)

Since finding this out about the POA I have felt like I have been kicked in the teeth. All the while I was helping her she knew what she had done with the POA, and would have known how that would make me feel, yet she couldn’t say anything.

I haven’t been able to visit for 10 days because of the train strikes, but I don’t want to visit next week. One half of me is compassionate, and doesn’t want to think of her sitting there waiting for visitors, yet the other side I don’t want to go and her see her as she is too far gone to discuss it, and I feel I need to process something that has really hurt me. AIBU to leave it a few weeks before I visit her?

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Antst · 08/01/2023 17:23

She and your sisters couldn't have been clearer that she prefers your sisters to be the ones to handle everything right now.

It would be one thing to get involved in order to avoid putting all the stress and expense of her care on your sisters but it sounds like they've participated. And unfortunately, whether she created that mistrust between you and your sisters or not, they're adults and are now responsible for their own behaviour.

Be prepared for unpleasantness surrounding the will but I doubt anything you do now will affect it one way or the other. She made the decision about POA when she was able to think it through.

I think that if you want to back off in light of this information, you'd be justified in doing so. She has care and you're not leaving her stuck. That said, if you do want to salvage a relationship with your sisters at some point, I'd send a note and explain that as you've been excluded from POA, it's clear your presence isn't needed and you wish them luck.

ThreeLittleDots · 08/01/2023 17:26

No. Why visit at all?

Tinkerbyebye · 08/01/2023 17:27

Leave it to your sisters

MichelleScarn · 08/01/2023 17:30

Agree with above, say you'll visit once she's settled in the care home her PoAs have chosen for her. Sadly also think you may get a sad surprise with her will.

jeaux90 · 08/01/2023 17:30

POA is not fun. If you had it, it would just be another way for her to manipulate you. POA is about execution of her wishes.

I'd see it as a gift.

BakedTattie · 08/01/2023 17:31

Don’t add any more stress to your life. The stress I mean, being them, unfortunately. I feel for you, what a cruel thing to do.

would you consider going NC with the 3 of them? I would.

AnUnlikelyPairing · 08/01/2023 17:32

I would save the money you would have spent going to see her, buying her gifts etc and use it for therapy or to simply do something nice for yourself. You deserve it. It sounds like she's had far more of your time, attention and kindness than she deserves. There are lots of elderly people who have no-one to visit them at all, you'd be better off visiting a stranger than this woman who has damaged you your entire life. Don't visit and try not to feel guily.

Mosaic123 · 08/01/2023 17:34

Just go occasionally when you feel like it.

How sad this situation is for you.

slamwich · 08/01/2023 17:35

Just because someone gets old and sick doesn't stop them being horrible person

OnedayIwillfeelfree · 08/01/2023 17:36

Thank you. Even the first handful of replies have made me feel better. @antst your reply was perfect. I fully expect to be left out of her will (her house is worth about 500k, probably) but in all honestly, I don’t care. My DH and I are now mortgage free, have some savings and we are totally non money orientated. My DH cannot stand her, for the way she has treated me over the years, and with the latest news, but has always been respectful to her. I may visit once a month or so, but want to not feel guilty.

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MontyBoston · 08/01/2023 17:36

My heart goes out to you. I've a narc mother and a depressed aggressive father. They're still together, warring away in their 80s in a toxic marriage. I've been given the heave ho and my sister is the golden child deemed worthy be around them. I've left them all to it - I've already had the will waving and threats.

If they've excluded you regarding POA etc don't be surprised if long-term you've been left a smaller sum or nothing in the will. I don't know why families turn out like this but they do.

My only advice would be to do whatever you feel comfortable with emotionally and don't expect anything of them at all.

ivykaty44 · 08/01/2023 17:37

You seem to have been given a gift of freedom, unwittingly but it is indeed a gift

use it wisely

im sure it wasn’t the twist of fate intended, but who cares

Soothsayer1 · 08/01/2023 17:37

step back and enjoy the free time😊

MontyBoston · 08/01/2023 17:39

ivykaty44 · 08/01/2023 17:37

You seem to have been given a gift of freedom, unwittingly but it is indeed a gift

use it wisely

im sure it wasn’t the twist of fate intended, but who cares

Very true!

MintChocCornetto · 08/01/2023 17:43

ivykaty44 · 08/01/2023 17:37

You seem to have been given a gift of freedom, unwittingly but it is indeed a gift

use it wisely

im sure it wasn’t the twist of fate intended, but who cares

Very much this

If you are able, walk away guilt free. The POA arrangements are undoubtedly a kick in the teeth but it frees you from ANY obligation to care, do admin, organise ... take this opportunity to spend that energy on your DH and children instead.

Any luck the 500k will be taken up in care costs anyway so you've lost nothing.

I'm sorry she wasn't a better mother.

Soothsayer1 · 08/01/2023 17:48

it's not a kick in the teeth, it's a golden carriage taking you away from all the stress🌻

TedMullins · 08/01/2023 17:55

I’d cut contact with the nasty old cow for good. I’ve got toxic parents and I make no effort with them whatsoever. It’s very liberating

Firstawake · 08/01/2023 18:32

POA is not an easy job. Your sisters must account for money spent is for your mothers best interest. (They are accountable if things dont add up) be mindful of this!
You are best out of it, but I suggest you dont take your eye of the e ball. 💐

OnedayIwillfeelfree · 08/01/2023 20:19

Thank you everyone who has taken time to respond. Your kind words have made me cry. I am trying to keep busy, but the hurt is on my shoulders like a big overcoat. I wish I could shake it off. We have no DC. We couldn’t have them naturally and I was so put off IVF and her opinions of it, and I lacked so much confidence that I would be any kind of a decent mother. Luckily I have friends who have made me a godmother and I have 7 godchildren aged 3-28 who I love to spend time with and go for fun days with. My eldest had her husband mention me in his wedding speech, and said She considered me a second Mum which was lovely.

OP posts:
MontyBoston · 08/01/2023 20:39

OnedayIwillfeelfree · 08/01/2023 20:19

Thank you everyone who has taken time to respond. Your kind words have made me cry. I am trying to keep busy, but the hurt is on my shoulders like a big overcoat. I wish I could shake it off. We have no DC. We couldn’t have them naturally and I was so put off IVF and her opinions of it, and I lacked so much confidence that I would be any kind of a decent mother. Luckily I have friends who have made me a godmother and I have 7 godchildren aged 3-28 who I love to spend time with and go for fun days with. My eldest had her husband mention me in his wedding speech, and said She considered me a second Mum which was lovely.

You come across as a lovely person. How very special for your godchildren that they have you.

I didn't want to have kids because of the treatment I got. Ended up having one child - not that my parents bother with him anyway. Crap parents make crap grandparents!

StarInTheHeavens · 08/01/2023 20:52

Tinkerbyebye · 08/01/2023 17:27

Leave it to your sisters

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