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To buy a stretcher and keep it at home in case of emergency?

287 replies

Summersoon8 · 03/01/2023 14:54

I had the thought of doing this and then a few days later I read the story of an elderly man with a broken hip with no ambulances available (not even given a long wait time, just told none available at all) and his family took him to hospital strapped to a plank of wood in the back of a van.

AIBU to consider buying some sort of emergency/folding stretcher online and storing it at home in case we're ever in the same sort of situation?

OP posts:
Sparklingbrook · 06/01/2023 18:42

Mirabai · 06/01/2023 18:36

Flounced or got bored…

Flounced because they didn't like the replies-seems to be a thing around here lately.

Mirabai · 06/01/2023 18:45

As it’s not U to buy what you like for your own house the replies were kind of irrelevant.

VladmirsPoutine · 06/01/2023 18:53

Mirabai · 06/01/2023 18:45

As it’s not U to buy what you like for your own house the replies were kind of irrelevant.

Buy it then. If I'm ever in need I'll send you a DM and ask how quickly you can get to the South east!

Mirabai · 06/01/2023 19:08

I’m in London, so there are certainly plenty of people around…

UniQueries · 06/01/2023 19:17

God this thread Confused I am definitely a prepper (I remember lobbying for the Prepping board!) and like to prepare for every scenario but a stretcher at home seems ridiculous. There is much more useful action you can take if you want to prepare (the first one is to contact your MP about the NHS crisis but that's a whole other thread. My MP hasn't even responded even with a holding reply, to an email I sent beginning of October following a hospital visit Hmm)

I would love first aid to be taught in schools and it's worth lobbying for that too! If anyone has specific concerns about a loved ones health condition and A and E trips, their consultant/GP should be able to signpost/help with a Care Plan. It makes 999 calls much quicker as you can read out info which has already been summarised (especially in a stressful situation). IME 999 call handlers (appreciate it may be different atm) are good at advising any first aid and talking through steps if you're inexperienced. It also makes admission a lot easier as regular medication/treatment and HCPs details are on there. It's worth always having a ready Hospital Grab Bag with hard copy of Care Plan, essentials like underwear and toiletries, bottle of water with a sports cap, power bank etc and xx days of medication. For people with regular meds, a dosset box is good for seeing when they last took their meds (especially if they're unable to tell you).

PP mentioned adaptations to prevent falls etc in the first place but I don't think it's been mentioned that in most locations Red Cross places can usually provide/lease things like raised toilet seats and grab handles etc.

My GP has said some people who are frequent fliers to A and E, at the current time can have doses of "rescue" medicines and emergency pain relief in the house to factor in delays. I wouldn't go so far as a stretcher for all the obvious reasons listed on the thread, but PP suggestion of crutches (especially for liable to fall people) and maybe a sling etc. Obviously the usual first aid kit in the house anyway. I don't want to be insensitive (I have one myself) but if there is a situation where resuscitation may be involved, esp with very sick or elderly patients, having a clear DNR marked on a Care Plan or just in the house (in writing) as well as NOK being aware, makes things a lot easier for paramedics and loved ones. It would be interesting if any paramedics have any advice for this thread?

I am a frequent flier to A and E but always try and get there without 999/ambulance wherever possible so I have morphine in the house which helps (especially over the 8 million fucking speed bumps on the way to the hospital!) The Care Plan speeds up admission/triage which also helps everyone else in the queue Smile It's important to get triage right, I think a lot of (sorry to generalise, I do it myself too) older patients minimise things in a "oh it's OK not too bad, don't worry about me" whilst clutching a limb or about to pass out and it really doesn't help with being triaged correctly.

At the moment I have added a blanket to my Grab Bag so it can be used as a cushion for sitting on the floor in A and E. (I also saw people queuing outside the door in the cold) I'm also tempted to add one of those plastic ponchos for theme park rides after fainting into a pile of sick (not mine) on the A and E floor which had been there for hours.

these tactics are for symptoms (ironic) and not the cause though. The NHS is absolutely fucked sadly and the people that should be held to account are politicians, it really angers me seeing how much abuse hospital staff/paramedics get. I understand how horrifically stressful it is for patients and loved ones at the moment. It's a good time to discuss things like this and DNRs etc as those conversations can be hard but it can slightly reduce the stress knowing you have plans in place.

newcovidisolations · 07/01/2023 00:08

Until you have been in the situation of a relative paralyzed by a stroke and knowing that unless you get the to hospital quickly it will be too late for the stroke reversing clot treatment dont be too quick to dismiss those of us who have.

Whilst visiting my parent in hospital yesterday the latest admission to the ward was a 42 year old lady with 2 young kids who was transported there by car as no ambulances after a stroke. Luckily lived local to hospital and several neighbours to help carry to the car and got the clot treatment. There was no chance of meeting the timescales if waited for an ambulance.

Please dont joke about these posts. If it was your relative surely you would call for help from people from the street, ring or call all your neighbours, anyone nearby who could drive there quickly, find anyone with van if you couldnt get them sat into a car seat. You would not just say oh well I am a 2 person household lets wait 6 hours for an ambulance if it would be too late. I dont live with my parents they called me to say there was no ambulance - I came with large vehicle and person to help carrying, anyone would if they could get there quicker than an ambulance. I would do it for neighbours or anyone else too not just relatives.

It feels like there is a total lack of empathy here, and it is easier to dismiss it as the reality of the situation that it could be your partner or child is too awful to contemplate. Best everyone is just distracted by Harrys memoirs then!

Sparklingbrook · 07/01/2023 04:20

I can’t believe Prince Harry’s book has made it into a thread about the merits (or not) of buying a stretcher for your home.

Mentalpiece · 07/01/2023 04:59

newcovidisolations · 07/01/2023 00:08

Until you have been in the situation of a relative paralyzed by a stroke and knowing that unless you get the to hospital quickly it will be too late for the stroke reversing clot treatment dont be too quick to dismiss those of us who have.

Whilst visiting my parent in hospital yesterday the latest admission to the ward was a 42 year old lady with 2 young kids who was transported there by car as no ambulances after a stroke. Luckily lived local to hospital and several neighbours to help carry to the car and got the clot treatment. There was no chance of meeting the timescales if waited for an ambulance.

Please dont joke about these posts. If it was your relative surely you would call for help from people from the street, ring or call all your neighbours, anyone nearby who could drive there quickly, find anyone with van if you couldnt get them sat into a car seat. You would not just say oh well I am a 2 person household lets wait 6 hours for an ambulance if it would be too late. I dont live with my parents they called me to say there was no ambulance - I came with large vehicle and person to help carrying, anyone would if they could get there quicker than an ambulance. I would do it for neighbours or anyone else too not just relatives.

It feels like there is a total lack of empathy here, and it is easier to dismiss it as the reality of the situation that it could be your partner or child is too awful to contemplate. Best everyone is just distracted by Harrys memoirs then!

I've been in that position with a close loved one.
I called an ambulance. There is no way I was going to pick her up off the floor.
First rule of first aid....don't become a victim yourself.
If I'd have tried to pick her up, I would have done my back in, stretcher or not.

limitedperiodonly · 07/01/2023 14:12

We gave our workmate Chris a fire extinguisher for a wedding present. It wasn't on the list but he often talked about the danger of fire in the home, I mean a lot, I think all of us had heard of Chris's fear of chip pan fires and the like though as far as I could tell he'd never actually been in that situation or mentioned anyone who had. He'd just watched a lot of public information films as a child I guess.

So we bought it as a surprise. He was touched, his bride less so. She thought we were taking the mickey out of him. We were a bit. He was a nerd but he was our nerd and we knew he'd like it.

I don't know whether he ever had cause to use it but looking back, it's a sensible thing to have. If he'd have wanted a stretcher we'd have bought him one of those instead but he didn't. Mrs Chris would have really thought we were taking the piss then.

Mirabai · 07/01/2023 18:29

Mentalpiece · 07/01/2023 04:59

I've been in that position with a close loved one.
I called an ambulance. There is no way I was going to pick her up off the floor.
First rule of first aid....don't become a victim yourself.
If I'd have tried to pick her up, I would have done my back in, stretcher or not.

And what if, like this poor unfortunate lady, the ambulance didn’t come for 11 hours and she died?

XenoBitch · 07/01/2023 22:29

Mirabai · 07/01/2023 18:29

And what if, like this poor unfortunate lady, the ambulance didn’t come for 11 hours and she died?

She was short of breath, not lying on the floor like a dead weight.

Mirabai · 08/01/2023 11:58

The poster said she would simply wait for an ambulance. The point of that link is that the ambulance didn’t arrive for 11 hours and the lady died…

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