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Am I wrong for feeling this way?

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Stashm · 03/01/2023 02:43

  • Long post warning -

little bit of background. I am a very busy mom of 3, who also happens to own a start up. It’s an extremely stressful time at the moment for all of us here at home (myself, kids and partner). My partner, let’s call him max, has always been very supportive, he takes care of the kids, schools and basically runs the household, all while working a full time job to pay all the bills etc, while I am working on the start up, that is eventually going to support and secure the family in future (financially).

Max and I have had problems in our relationship since the past 3 years, it all started with his family - long story short - they made racial comments about me and texted him bad things about me - and he never said anything about it. I always told him that, it hurts me most that he didn’t have my back or stand up for me, and I think that’s the foundation of most of our arguments.

fast forward to my actual question…

On Christmas Day we had my 2 best friends over, let’s name them Amy and Cheryl. Amy is an experienced business owner and financial advisor. I consider her to be my mentor in my own business journey, she just is there with an answer whenever you need it. However she kind of has the trait of her answer is always the right one although her life has not been all rosy as well.

On Xmas day after dinner and drinks, myself, max, cheryl and Amy were sitting at the table just conversating, I asked Amy some advise on a business related topic on how I can pull the business forward (I have been struggling a lot lately balancing relationship, business, mom and family life, stressed out to the point where I burst into screams and tears and max has to console me) Amy suggested I am not putting in enough work, I need fo do things this way, need to do it that way. I am suggesting I don’t have time to do things she is suggesting as I am struggling as it is. We’re going back and forth to the point where we are having a heated debate almost argument at the Xmas table. Max then says, he thinks Amy is right and I need to be open to her advice. He then makes a joke saying “oooh I can see the fire going between you two”

anyway they leave that night the vibes are awkward, I am ignoring and avoiding max as I felt that he could have stood up for me in that conversation as he knows how hard I have been working he sees and goes through everything at home with me, something’s Amy wouldn’t get to see. We had a big argument about it!

next day (Boxing Day) Amy and Cheryl come over to apologize to me, Amy saying she didn’t see my point of view. I broke down because I was overwhelmed and emotional with everything that has been going on for last couple of months. I tell Amy and Cheryl I think I need therapy as an output as I sometimes feel over stimulated. Amy suggests a business life coach.

fast forward to today 02/01

I saw a message on max phone from Ana, I was curious and opened the conversation (I don’t normally do this we trust each other and don’t have passwords on our phones) …max messaged Amy thanking her for coming to see me the next day, Amy tells max I need therapy and we probably also need couple therapy to sort out past issues (family) they continue to have a full blown conversation about how I need therapy, max says to her “you can’t tell someone they need therapy if they don’t acknowledge it” (talking about me)

anyway… I called cheryl after I saw the messages, she then told me, max went to Amy’s house on Christmas after we had the argument to go speak to her about the argument we had( I didn’t know that until today) he also wanted to go to Cheryl house but didn’t. Neither of them told me and if I didn’t see the messages I wouldn’t have known.

I feel a bit ….betrayed?

I guess my question is, am I overreacting?

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SugarplumFairyyy · 03/01/2023 02:51

No you are not over reacting. He hasn't had your back.

  1. He should have shut down racists comments made by his family. Its disgusting and wrong. Enough to cause a rift in my eyes and make me not want to speak to my family if they spoke about DH in this way. No excuse there.

  2. He joined in with Amy during the argument and made you feel like you had no one in your corner. Then made a silly joke. Highly insensitive and unsupportive.

  3. He was talking about you engaging in therapy and witg the girls behind your back as though you need an intervention. It's patronising and belittling and not to mention disloyal.

I'd be ROYALLY PISSED OFF.

if anyone needs therapy it's him. Tell him to get therapy on how to be a better husband and overall better human being.

MzLucky · 03/01/2023 02:52

There is a old school myth. That if you are self employed/run your own business then you need to work every second of every day. I started my business 7 years ago. The first thing I done was set working days/hours. You wouldn't work for nothing/every minute in employment. Being self employed has so many benefits. The first being you call the shots.

It's lovely your friends help you but it may muddy the water. Keep your business unique to you.

The whole therapy thing sounds like they are worried about you and care. Saying that however they are coming over as pushy.

How do you feel about your dh? Do you think couples therapy would help? Does he think it would help?

You sound really down op. Hope things pick up for you 💐

If you are on Twitter give the guy from dragons den a follow hes fab for self care when self employed. Think its Taj.

LBFseBrom · 03/01/2023 02:53

I wouldn't like my partner and friend to talk about me in that way so from that point of view you are not unreasonable.

However you do sound extremely stressed and unhappy with life and that does need to be properly addressed, Stashm. Maybe the start up combined with your family life does not really suit you but only you can work that one out.

Please do find some objective, experienced counselling as soon as possible and try to relax. Your health is of paramount importance.

MzLucky · 03/01/2023 02:55

Sorry its Tej.

TealSapphire · 03/01/2023 03:13

You sound quite dramatic. Your husband works full time, does the lions share at home and then has to console you as you 'burst into screams and tears'.

Then he has to smooth things over with your friends after you again break down over how hard your life is.

The not having your back with his family is unacceptable though.

Aprilx · 03/01/2023 04:06

I think the issues with your partners family are separate and I am not sure why you brought them into the same post , although obviously they deserve a post of their own.

But to the incident at Christmas, well you ask friends over for Christmas, use them for free advice and then get hysterical when you don’t like the advice. Perhaps your partner thought it was a good idea to listen to Amy, perhaps he can see that things are not going as they should and you need to take on advice. Agreeing with you is not necessarily helping you.

You have caused quite a scene in your home and I am not that surprised that your partner had reached out for some help. He is probably exhausted.

Stashm · 03/01/2023 04:17

that Is my point exactly. He didn’t have my back.

What I feel upset about it that nobody thought to add me in the conversation, why do it behind my back?

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Stashm · 03/01/2023 04:22

Aprilx · 03/01/2023 04:06

I think the issues with your partners family are separate and I am not sure why you brought them into the same post , although obviously they deserve a post of their own.

But to the incident at Christmas, well you ask friends over for Christmas, use them for free advice and then get hysterical when you don’t like the advice. Perhaps your partner thought it was a good idea to listen to Amy, perhaps he can see that things are not going as they should and you need to take on advice. Agreeing with you is not necessarily helping you.

You have caused quite a scene in your home and I am not that surprised that your partner had reached out for some help. He is probably exhausted.

I brought it in to for context.

im not upset about the advice I received, I’m upset about my best friend, conversating with my partner about me needing therapy behind my back. When they came on Boxing Day, I told Amy and Cheryl I’m going to reach out to a therapist, I didn’t have conversation with max, she then proceeded to tell him.

Also I didn’t cause a scene in my home, we had the argument after they had left to which he then drove to her house, again she didn’t tell me.

looking at the background, she is my friend not his, I would expect my friend to tell me, “hey stash max was here last night, we talked about you guys and how we could help” etc etc, wouldn’t you?
doex that not seem a bit weird?

OP posts:
Stashm · 03/01/2023 04:24

MzLucky · 03/01/2023 02:52

There is a old school myth. That if you are self employed/run your own business then you need to work every second of every day. I started my business 7 years ago. The first thing I done was set working days/hours. You wouldn't work for nothing/every minute in employment. Being self employed has so many benefits. The first being you call the shots.

It's lovely your friends help you but it may muddy the water. Keep your business unique to you.

The whole therapy thing sounds like they are worried about you and care. Saying that however they are coming over as pushy.

How do you feel about your dh? Do you think couples therapy would help? Does he think it would help?

You sound really down op. Hope things pick up for you 💐

If you are on Twitter give the guy from dragons den a follow hes fab for self care when self employed. Think its Taj.

Oh I know that all too well! How did you balance it out?

yes I think couples therapy might benefit us both, it’s an Avenue I would like to explore

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Stashm · 03/01/2023 04:25

SugarplumFairyyy · 03/01/2023 02:51

No you are not over reacting. He hasn't had your back.

  1. He should have shut down racists comments made by his family. Its disgusting and wrong. Enough to cause a rift in my eyes and make me not want to speak to my family if they spoke about DH in this way. No excuse there.

  2. He joined in with Amy during the argument and made you feel like you had no one in your corner. Then made a silly joke. Highly insensitive and unsupportive.

  3. He was talking about you engaging in therapy and witg the girls behind your back as though you need an intervention. It's patronising and belittling and not to mention disloyal.

I'd be ROYALLY PISSED OFF.

if anyone needs therapy it's him. Tell him to get therapy on how to be a better husband and overall better human being.

that Is my point exactly. He didn’t have my back.

What I feel upset about it that nobody thought to add me in the conversation, why do it behind my back?

OP posts:
Stashm · 03/01/2023 04:31

TealSapphire · 03/01/2023 03:13

You sound quite dramatic. Your husband works full time, does the lions share at home and then has to console you as you 'burst into screams and tears'.

Then he has to smooth things over with your friends after you again break down over how hard your life is.

The not having your back with his family is unacceptable though.

There was nothing to soothe over with my friends.

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Quinoawoman · 03/01/2023 06:37

I just think you are putting really high expectations on yourself and you don't have strong enough boundaries around your work life balance - as evidenced by you mixing business with pleasure on Christmas Day! No wonder you are stressed and always on the verge of tears. This was me last year and I had to take a major step back from several areas of my life, stop being a people pleaser and start saying 'no' more often and guess what? 90% of my anger issues, which were actually resentment based, evaporated.

Shoxfordian · 03/01/2023 06:50

He accepts his family making racist comments about you; says enough really - he doesn’t support you and he condones these comments. I know it’s not the point of your post but it shows he’s not really on your team

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