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To think toddlers don’t need snacks?

389 replies

Cuppasoupmonster · 31/12/2022 18:56

I was just pondering this when washing up. I’ve never really given DD snacks, she has her 3 meals a day and that’s usually it, maybe once or twice a week she will have a digestive biscuit or yoghurt if dinner is going to be later than usual. However it seems like when we go on days out with other mums and toddlers, they come laden with snacks that are whipped out every hour or two. AIBU to think toddlers don’t really need to snack and this might be contributing to the obesity crisis?

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CleoandRalf · 31/12/2022 22:28

Pumperthepumper · 31/12/2022 22:26

But you’re refusing to say how having a 200 calorie lunch plus a 100 calorie snack is any different to her having a 300 calorie lunch.

not sure maths would be the OPs strong point considering the silly comments thus far on this thread.

Cuppasoupmonster · 31/12/2022 22:28

00100001 · 31/12/2022 22:26

THAT'S A SNACK!!!!

Oh please you know the difference, you’re just trying a desperate gotcha

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Cuppasoupmonster · 31/12/2022 22:29

CleoandRalf · 31/12/2022 22:28

not sure maths would be the OPs strong point considering the silly comments thus far on this thread.

And I’m not sure comprehension is yours. My point has never been that ‘snacking = extra calories = obesity’. It’s that snacking may have an impact on the metabolism by never ever letting the stomach be empty/hungry, and instilling habits of compulsively eating. I’ve discussed it with previous posters

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00100001 · 31/12/2022 22:31

Cuppasoupmonster · 31/12/2022 22:28

Oh please you know the difference, you’re just trying a desperate gotcha

No, you're INSISTING that toddlers dint need snacks. Except you give your child a snack if you think they might be hungry between meals.

Which is exactly what everyone else does, they're children are hungry between meals, sonare given snack...

So why are your snacks "allowed" but others aren't?

CleoandRalf · 31/12/2022 22:31

Cuppasoupmonster · 31/12/2022 22:29

And I’m not sure comprehension is yours. My point has never been that ‘snacking = extra calories = obesity’. It’s that snacking may have an impact on the metabolism by never ever letting the stomach be empty/hungry, and instilling habits of compulsively eating. I’ve discussed it with previous posters

So as expected, your point is based on something you’ve made up and is actually medically proven not to be true for children.

Gee

Reigateforever · 31/12/2022 22:32

00100001
No. When I drink my mugs of black coffee no sugar in the morning and then change to mugs of sugarless tea in the afternoon, I drink, I do not eat, no biscuits, cakes, bars etc.
Black coffee no sugar a snack, I don’t think so, oh I forgot I also drink warm water.

00100001 · 31/12/2022 22:34

Cuppasoupmonster · 31/12/2022 22:29

And I’m not sure comprehension is yours. My point has never been that ‘snacking = extra calories = obesity’. It’s that snacking may have an impact on the metabolism by never ever letting the stomach be empty/hungry, and instilling habits of compulsively eating. I’ve discussed it with previous posters

But you're wrong.

It's clear that it's the abundance of hyper processed salty sugary shit food that is the problem.

No-one is going to get obese eating salad, meats, plain yoghurt and brown rice.

But they will get obese eating doughnuts, processed meats shaped to look like a bear, chocolate yogurt with sugary cereal to stir in and potato smiles.

00100001 · 31/12/2022 22:36

Reigateforever · 31/12/2022 22:32

00100001
No. When I drink my mugs of black coffee no sugar in the morning and then change to mugs of sugarless tea in the afternoon, I drink, I do not eat, no biscuits, cakes, bars etc.
Black coffee no sugar a snack, I don’t think so, oh I forgot I also drink warm water.

I'm not sure what you're replying to?

I was saying that elevenses and afternoon tea is a traditional snack time and it going back centuries in the UK, to support the notion that snacking is not a recent phenomena.

tiredmama23 · 31/12/2022 22:37

This reminds me to add snacks to the shopping list for toddler DD tomorrow (who incidentally is a normal healthy weight, as am I)

Thanks for the reminder OP!

Kitcaterpillar · 31/12/2022 22:43

Cuppasoupmonster · 31/12/2022 21:45

Miaow! 😆

No, no, I'm serious, mate. Because I give my child breakfast and then she moves at a pace and intensity that, were she an adult doing similar, she'd be chugging back energy gels like there was no tomorrow. So, I'm thinking, maybe, your kid's just a bit fucking dull.

Thoughts?

Reigateforever · 31/12/2022 22:43

ChateauxNeufDePoop
A healthy snack is still calories and calories all add up.

00100001 · 31/12/2022 22:43

tiredmama23 · 31/12/2022 22:37

This reminds me to add snacks to the shopping list for toddler DD tomorrow (who incidentally is a normal healthy weight, as am I)

Thanks for the reminder OP!

OMG do you want your child to be obese.????

WhiskeyStones · 31/12/2022 22:44

One of my friends is a dietician working for the NHS. She says most young kids simply can’t/don’t eat enough in their meals on a regular basis to get the nutrition that they need.

Their stomachs are small, they get ill fairly often affecting appetite, they’re easily distracted, fruit/veg has often been stored and nutrients depleted, texture issues are common restricting what they eat and she says many kids don’t seem to like to feel really full, unlike adults, so will stop eating before that.

She says the aim is for kids to eat 3 meals and 2/3 snacks each day, obviously in an appropriate portion and then looking at their diet over a week, they hopefully get what they need. And then give them vitamins on top to be sure. She says the absolute best things are to model good eating habits, (choosing healthy snacks is part of that, but not for OP) not make too many rules around food (like OPs silly no snacking idea), not to use foods as rewards, and keep processed foods to a minimum. I don’t think my friend would think OPs way of doing things is the best way longer term.

Cuppasoupmonster · 31/12/2022 22:47

Kitcaterpillar · 31/12/2022 22:43

No, no, I'm serious, mate. Because I give my child breakfast and then she moves at a pace and intensity that, were she an adult doing similar, she'd be chugging back energy gels like there was no tomorrow. So, I'm thinking, maybe, your kid's just a bit fucking dull.

Thoughts?

Mate 😆

My thoughts are that you’re a sad little person to be so nasty about a small child.

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Cuppasoupmonster · 31/12/2022 22:47

tiredmama23 · 31/12/2022 22:37

This reminds me to add snacks to the shopping list for toddler DD tomorrow (who incidentally is a normal healthy weight, as am I)

Thanks for the reminder OP!

Haha, no worries!

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Cuppasoupmonster · 31/12/2022 22:48

00100001 · 31/12/2022 22:31

No, you're INSISTING that toddlers dint need snacks. Except you give your child a snack if you think they might be hungry between meals.

Which is exactly what everyone else does, they're children are hungry between meals, sonare given snack...

So why are your snacks "allowed" but others aren't?

Do you think it’s okay to occasionally eat chocolate, or should it be eaten every day?

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ChateauxNeufDePoop · 31/12/2022 22:50

LunaRegis · 31/12/2022 21:57

I agree OP, there’s just no need for it, it’s just greed. Then the parents seem baffled when the kids won’t eat their meals. Or they allow the kids to leave the main meal as they claim to be full, yet they always manage to shovel cake into their faces despite this.

That's got nothing to do with what the OP has posted.

00100001 · 31/12/2022 22:50

Cuppasoupmonster · 31/12/2022 22:48

Do you think it’s okay to occasionally eat chocolate, or should it be eaten every day?

Why does a snack have to be only chocolate?

Eat chocolate every day if you like...won't make you obese if you have a small amount.

Cuppasoupmonster · 31/12/2022 22:51

00100001 · 31/12/2022 22:50

Why does a snack have to be only chocolate?

Eat chocolate every day if you like...won't make you obese if you have a small amount.

It doesn’t, you clearly don’t understand the analogy.

My point was that doing something occasionally isn’t the same as doing it all the time or on a daily basis.

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ChateauxNeufDePoop · 31/12/2022 22:55

Reigateforever · 31/12/2022 22:43

ChateauxNeufDePoop
A healthy snack is still calories and calories all add up.

Yes. And?

Nothing about that necessarily adds up to an unhealthy diet.

Not all calories are the same and you're assuming all three meals are equalling the exact amount a child needs through the day.

An 80 calorie apple will do more good than harm.

LouLou789 · 31/12/2022 22:55

I think it varies from day to day. We have 12 grandchildren and have seen most of them vary from no snacks at all to can I have a banana/biscuit/breadstick/apple/cheese string every 5 mins.

Kitcaterpillar · 31/12/2022 23:00

Cuppasoupmonster · 31/12/2022 22:47

Mate 😆

My thoughts are that you’re a sad little person to be so nasty about a small child.

Got it, got it, dull child. Better luck next time.

00100001 · 31/12/2022 23:00

Cuppasoupmonster · 31/12/2022 22:51

It doesn’t, you clearly don’t understand the analogy.

My point was that doing something occasionally isn’t the same as doing it all the time or on a daily basis.

But you're saying that toddlers dint need snacks.

Yet you give snacks.

Whether you give them every day or once a month it's still a snack. You clearly understand that snacks are needed.

Now why is it "wrong" to give a child a yogurt at 10am instead of 7am at breakfast?

Why don't you understand that it's the type of food that's the issue? A child eating a breakfast of Nutella on toast, a strawberry milkshake and a jam filled shelf stable brioche, and then a lunch of a take away pizza, mars bar and a bag of Doritos and dinner of turkey twizzlers, bob the builder pasta shapes and 8 potato smiles, followed by a chocolate yogurt might never snack. But will probably be at more risk of being obese than the child eating a breakfast of porridge, a snack of cheese, a lunch of pasta, a snack of cucumber, carrot sticks and cherry tomatoes, and a dinner of turkey, peas, broccoli and boiled potatoes.

BadNomad · 31/12/2022 23:00

You're just thinking snacks are treats, but they aren't always. There is no difference in daily calories if you give a yogurt as part of a meal, or giving it 2 hours later. Except in the latter scenario, it would be called a snack.

Cuppasoupmonster · 31/12/2022 23:02

Kitcaterpillar · 31/12/2022 23:00

Got it, got it, dull child. Better luck next time.

😆 hope the therapy goes well x

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