for getting fed up with dh not being able to get work

[2shoes]

I keep reading threads about immigration. oh how wonderful it is. it will pay my pension. yippee I can get a builder who will fix my pc as well and work for peanuts.
only trouble is if you are in the building trade and need a decent wage to support your family your f***
you can't drop your wages as suprise suprise the mortgage or rent stays the same and has to be paid. and food and petrol and fuel bills stay the same.
then to cap it all people then say lets get the lazy people of benefits.
I don't blame the immigrants by the way but the govement.

Trouble is the whole country is to blame. We all want things cheaper. The largest % cost in anything is wages. You want someone to come and fix your leaking roof for £400 or £40. You all know which you'll chose if you're paying. So you end up with cheap labour.

I wasn't ignoring you 2shoes

Did you say he is a builder? We're looking for a quote for an enormous job. Having dd's bedroom and bathroom built.
We're in Bristol.

actually thinking about it there are 3 major building sites around me at the moment.

its quite possibly why i noticed so many eastern europeans yesterday.

but as you say 2shoes, its not the migrants fault. it is down to the government to enforce the minimum wage and to ensure that jobs are given to british nationals first.

you cannot blame someone moving to a more economically viable country in order to feed tehir families.

im sure if you heard that bulgaria was offering builders £50 an hour, almost guarenteed work and excellent medical treatment you would move like a shot.

(and you know i know its not that simple for you, but i mean it as a hypothetical)

Economic migration is good for teh economy. but i do wonder what it does to society and our social values.

nmc sadly we live miles away and he doesn't drive (lovely old health stuff) I am sure something will turn up. but it doesn't help when you are going through shit times and thread after thread has people calling people on benefits lazy.
MAMAZON have replied. would have been better if you admited you f**ed up on original thread.

yeah, I get ticked off with rich types suggesting benefit claiments are lazy. We'd give anything for dd not to be brain-damaged and for DH to be able to work full time.

Do wish you lived close by though. Most builders are refusing to touch this job as its hard ffs

it is a shame as obviously he knows all about that kind of stuff.

well i am neither rich nor do i take benefit claims for granted.

im in a similar position to you NMC. i can't work since leaving xp because Ds is SN.
i am therefore on benefits.

but i think there is a difference between saying that there are lazy people who would prefer to stay on the dole than do certain jobs and calling all people on benefits lazy.

nmc I know what you mean. even my db has come round(took years) and realised the situation we are in.
dh is tied to the home. he has to be able to help me. and there is no point him taking a job which would have crazy hours as he has to be here at certain times. and it will get worse as she gets older.
I suppose we could let the goverment take the strain..imagine how much that would cost the tax payer

I think that the problem with economic immigration is that its not controlled. I think that the UK should not allow economic migrants to do unskilled jobs. There should be work permits for anyone outside the UK.

Economic migration harms the countries which the people leave. Poland needs its young bricklayers, plummers and electricians. In the long term Poland will become poorer from losing all these people.

It is crazy that the UK trains doctors who can't get jobs and then employs doctors from abroad. The countries where these people trained must suffer.

In the past people with mild or moderate learning difficulties could get low paid unskilled work like labouring jobs. To make things worst the governant has got rid of Reploy which used to provide sheltered jobs for disabled people. Understandly an employer would rather employ a bright person with no English than English person with learning difficulties.

My DH now earns about 15% less than he did 3 years ago purely because of the influx of workers in his profession.

He now owns a recruitment agency for workers in his field and I posted on that thread the other day about how one very well known company told him that if his workforce didn't like the wages being offered he should start seeking out immigrants!!!

As I said before, its not the immigrants fault that this happens but our government for not controlling the situation better and of course unscrupulous companies like the one above.

And of course, the fact that these immigrants are such hard workers, don't complain and turn up for every shift doesn't help

Feel for you 2shoes, must make things much harder having a child with SN. My DH is working about 15 hours a day, 6 days a week atm just to make ends meet and I find it difficult to cope alone for that amount of time - imagine it must be tenfold for you.

The sad thing is that uncontrolled economic migration hurts the immigrants countries. It costs a lot to train someone to do a job. A poor country cannot afford to train someone to be nurse and then lose them to the UK.

Having all the clever people come from Poland makes the financial gap between England and Poland wider. Hard working Poles need to work hard to improve Poland.