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babyva · 24/12/2022 00:01

DD is nearly 3. We are currently staying with family abroad. DD is here with DH and her little brother.

Even at home she's pretty clingy. Say if I go upstairs, she'll come looking for me etc. she'll sometimes refuse to go anywhere with her dad, unless I come.

She goes to nursery and has been going for about a year and still has trouble separating. I can leave her with a couple of her favourite people there and she's happy to go in, but cries a lot if they're not there.

Anyway, back to our current trip.

Every time we get out of the car or do anything together, she's always looking for me/ crying for me and having massive tantrums if I'm not right there. I basically can't leave her side without the breakdowns. For example, she'll be sitting down at a table with her dad and brother and I'll go up to order, which will cause a huge meltdown. Or say I need the toilet or to get something from the car etc. obviously I take her with me as much as I can and I don't abandon her, but it's not practical sometimes. On the plane she sat next to her dad and she was upset she wasn't sitting next to me etc. I wanted to swap seats, but her dad said not to.

At bed time it's also an issue. No one else can really put her to bed. I can kind of deal with that at home, but it's exhausting here and she's constantly crying and it's really affecting my movements. We always comfort her and tell her I'll be back etc. she's been where we are so many times, so it's not new.

What else can I do to stop the tantrums around this ?

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londonista3 · 24/12/2022 00:22

This sounds a lot like my 4 year old. I feel like my 4 year old has been like this for a lot of her life. I know that she finds being left at nursery difficult but once I'm gone and she's with adults she trusts, she's fine.
I have an older child who wasn't as clingy and definitely got better as she got older.

My attitude is that where possible, I try and be there, offer cuddles and reassurance because I think they're experiencing normal development behaviour. I believe my 4 year old was affected by hearing (2 years ago) that the dad of a friend of hers died. I imagine that that is one reason she's developed an extra clinginess. I've tried talking factually and reassuringly about death when she brings it up but I think it's very hard for her to understand and process.

You also have to look after yourself and when you need a break from her, it's ok to let her experience the sadness that you're not there. You know she's safe with her dad or at nursery and eventually she'll understand. Just keep modelling being relaxed and cheerful when you part and reunite.

Merlott · 24/12/2022 00:33

It's just a phase.

I feel sorry about the plane though. That won't have helped!

I find if I dare go out without DD for an hour she is much clingier for the rest of the day.

She has just turned 3. DS was exactly the same around this age.

I think developmentally this is the age they start having nightmares, becoming afraid of the dark etc. Quite a lot going on for them. DD currently only sleeps glued to me 🙄

One day she will be a teen who wants nothing to do with me so it's not that bad

Disabrie22 · 24/12/2022 00:39

Some children are just more emotionally needy than others. She is - support her self esteem growth and love her - she will be ok. She’s three years old - it’s just where she is right now.
She loves you, sounds like you are a good mum xxx

babyva · 24/12/2022 04:28

Merlott · 24/12/2022 00:33

It's just a phase.

I feel sorry about the plane though. That won't have helped!

I find if I dare go out without DD for an hour she is much clingier for the rest of the day.

She has just turned 3. DS was exactly the same around this age.

I think developmentally this is the age they start having nightmares, becoming afraid of the dark etc. Quite a lot going on for them. DD currently only sleeps glued to me 🙄

One day she will be a teen who wants nothing to do with me so it's not that bad

Yeah I think on the way back, I should sit with her and dad can handle the baby...

She's starting to be afraid of the dark and of monsters etc.. bless her. She's just so adorable. She's also out of nappies now, for maybe 6 weeks.. I wonder if that also has something to do with it.

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Passanotherjaffacake · 24/12/2022 04:41

If it helps, my dd is 3 and she isn’t normally clingy but has found being away for Christmas very difficult. We are with a beloved grandparent but she was still really unsettled and upset. I think Christmas is difficult time when 3 because they start to get some of the hype!

AnnaTortoiseshell · 24/12/2022 05:14

OP this sounds really tough! It also sounds pretty normal to me. Especially given there’s been so much going on for her in the past year - potty training, a new baby (massive!) starting nursery, possibly dropping her nap, possibly sleeping in a big girl bed? And those are just the ‘obvious’ changes, none of the massive developmental stuff that’s been going on for her.

The key thing is, if she is crying and tantruming for your attention, she’s likely to be getting a response from you and her dad that is a bit irritable at times (you’re human, and that’s normal), but it won’t be meeting her need for that extra nurture and comfort that she is showing you she wants. She doesn’t know how to put that into words, because she’s three, so she just keeps screaming, even though the screaming doesn’t quite lead to the reassurance she craves. And because she’s not quite satisfied, the cycle just self perpetuates.

If I were you, I’d lean into it as much as possible for a few weeks, and then reassess. That doesn’t mean doing everything, but doing as much as you can with her without her having to tantrum to get you, so you start to break the connection between ‘tantrum’ and ‘getting mummy’. She gets mummy lots without needing to tantrum. And then make sure you prepare her if you’re ‘leaving’ her as much as you can, and try to be specific about how long until you’re back.

Are you able to ever go out just the two of you? Completely shower her with your attention and love when you take her to the park for an hour, just you two. I would also suggest building her relationship with her dad, so think of something she would love to do (ideally a weekly activity) and he takes her every week. It’s her special time with daddy. He is totally involved and connected with her, no phone and no distractions.

It also might be worth looking into books you could read with her about the impact of a new baby or about being apart and coming back together, whatever your sense is of the root of the issue for her. The invisible string is a good place to start (often recommended for children who are adopted, who struggle with the idea of adults leaving and coming back) but there are probably more tailored choices for your specific situation. That could help give her some language around what she is feeling.

That’s another point, actually. Try to label her feelings as much as you can, so that she starts to learn the language she needs to tell you what she needs, rather than screaming. “It looks like you’re feeling really worried and sad that mummy has to leave now. I’m so sorry you’re feeling that way. I am coming back at [specific point relevant to her, eg, after tea]” “It looks like it’s making you so cross that mummy has to care for the baby right now, it can be so hard to share mummy. Sometimes I am busy with the baby, but I love you all the time, darling”. “I wonder if you’re feeling angry that mummy is looking after the baby again, and isn’t with you?”

I promise this labelling works. My DD is a similar age and has a baby sibling too. She often wants me preferentially and will go through phases of being a bit screamy about it. At the moment she is doing a lot of “help, I’ve fallen down!” “Help, I’m falling!” when she wants my attention. I consistently tell her that it’s okay to just want her mummy, and she doesn't have to pretend to fall down. She can just ask me for a cuddle, or for some attention and then I give her a big cuddle. She has taken this on and started to ask for a cuddle or say she needs some attention instead. It’s positive because she is developing awareness of her own internal world and learning that it’s okay to be upfront about her emotional needs and she can expect to have these met in her key relationships. She even told me she was “frustrated” twice this week, instead of screaming. I was delighted! I’ve been working on frustrated for a long time!

anyway, I’m going to stop rambling now. I’m wide awake because the baby hasn’t woken up like normal for a feed ha

babyva · 24/12/2022 07:15

Passanotherjaffacake · 24/12/2022 04:41

If it helps, my dd is 3 and she isn’t normally clingy but has found being away for Christmas very difficult. We are with a beloved grandparent but she was still really unsettled and upset. I think Christmas is difficult time when 3 because they start to get some of the hype!

Yes you're right ! Her understanding of things in general has just skyrocketed the last month or two. Last year she didn't get it much at all that it was Christmas. She understands so much more now. She's so sweet and precious.Smile always asking about Father Christmas...

She's so much more aware of everything. My in laws took her doggy to look after and whereas before, she wouldn't have even noticed- she was absolutely distraught. ' where is my doggy ? ' she cried all evening. It must be that heightened awareness and being in a different place.

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Redebs · 24/12/2022 07:21

It's normal.
I can't understand why your husband didn't let you swap seats to be next to her on the flight!
Don't let anyone try to get you to deprive her of the comfort she needs from you.

Redebs · 24/12/2022 07:23

And why did the inlaws take her doggy? Sounds like emotional abuse!

babyva · 24/12/2022 07:47

Redebs · 24/12/2022 07:23

And why did the inlaws take her doggy? Sounds like emotional abuse!

Aw no. They're just looking after the doggy while we are away.

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babyva · 24/12/2022 07:58

I promise this labelling works. My DD is a similar age and has a baby sibling too. She often wants me preferentially and will go through phases of being a bit screamy about it. At the moment she is doing a lot of “help, I’ve fallen down!” “Help, I’m falling!” when she wants my attention. I consistently tell her that it’s okay to just want her mummy, and she doesn't have to pretend to fall down. She can just ask me for a cuddle, or for some attention and then I give her a big cuddle. She has taken this on and started to ask for a cuddle or say she needs some attention instead. It’s positive because she is developing awareness of her own internal world and learning that it’s okay to be upfront about her emotional needs and she can expect to have these met in her key relationships. She even told me she was “frustrated” twice this week, instead of screaming. I was delighted! I’ve been working on frustrated for a long time!

Aw this is so great and my DD does similar stuff too. Or she says she needs the toilet.. because she knows I'll go with her. She has started saying she's angry or sad, because I've been labelling her feelings a lot of the time as well. But she's not doing it all the time yet. It's a revelation that often she can say what's actually wrong now. 6 months ago, it was just screaming ! Thank you for your post, very useful tips.

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babyva · 24/12/2022 08:05

Redebs · 24/12/2022 07:21

It's normal.
I can't understand why your husband didn't let you swap seats to be next to her on the flight!
Don't let anyone try to get you to deprive her of the comfort she needs from you.

He's like ' she needs to get used to it' Bla Bla...
I'm not going to let that happen again. If she wants to sit next to me, she can. And he can deal with the baby Grin

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