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Torys blaming the nurses

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Gruffalo101 · 19/12/2022 07:56

I find it ridiculously absurd that the government are blaming nurses for an increase in deaths as a result of the strike. They have overseen the undermining of the nhs for years, what did they think the result of this would be.... dangerThey have knowingly and actively sought to destroy the nhs resulting in poor staffing and services...what did they actually think this would lead to. Jeremy Hunt and Rishi Sunak among others have been engaged in discussions.with American healthcare companies.

So if anyone has blood on their hands it is the Tories for this situation.

As an aside there is a distinct lack of media investigation into the growing privatised healthcare companies that are sprouting up left right and centre. So much for comprehensive journalism, particularly the 'impartial' BBC. If the Michelle Mone situation isn't enough of a red flag then the UK public are deluded.

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SavoirFlair · 19/12/2022 08:03

I agree with all of this. But we live in an age where enough people are happy to have their buttons pushed by mainstream media, and the Tories know that blame figures are often a satisfying emotional shortcut

also, too many people who’ve benefited from cheap PCP deals, cheaper mortgages, and a bit of spending power in the last 12 years, automatically see themselves as a closet “Tory” because anything else is “unaspirational”.

these are the people who when the next General Election happens, could keep the Tories in a hung Parliament or worse.

MagpiePi · 19/12/2022 08:06

its a deliberate move by the government to try and get public opinion to turn against the nurses.

Timeforabiscuit · 19/12/2022 08:10

I'm angry at the conservatives, but my rage is reserved for Labour, they are meant to be an opposition party - what on earth have they done about the situation apart from tow the Conservative line "in the national interest".

Just look at adult social care and the plethora of broken policies and roll back there, so many civil servants have said the system requires significant investment but fails to recognise that the NHS runs on dedicated people which are just being fed through a meat grinder currently.

Butterlover1 · 19/12/2022 08:13

Tory strategy is definitely divide and conquer

Demonise all strikers and turn the public against them.

Threadkillacilla · 19/12/2022 08:16

Butterlover1 · 19/12/2022 08:13

Tory strategy is definitely divide and conquer

Demonise all strikers and turn the public against them.

Very much this. Its a tried and tested tactic, sadly it works for them. Watch the media pump out how support for strikes is low or waning.

Sindonym · 19/12/2022 08:16

Of course they are.

And yes there’s no such think as the NHS now. It’s all different organisations buying and selling to each other. Woe betide if you need them to talk to each other.

My son spent a year & a half in a private hospital. It cost the NHS 12k a week. The care there was so poor it was closed down by the CQC after 3 deaths (all patients who overlapped with his stay, 2 deaths while he was there(.

bigbluebus · 19/12/2022 08:31

Of course they are. They're not going to stand up and say that it's years of underfunding and maladministration by the Tories themselves are they?

They have to spin the narrative that nurses are to blame so the gullible public will believe them and still vote for them!

I had a FB 'friend ' blame the railway workers and Mick Lynch for the problems with the rail service the other day and how their demands for a pay rise were unreasonable - which is what the Tories want you to believe. I quickly pointed out that it wasn't all about the pay and that the proposed changes to the way the service operates was largely unworkable as rolling stock and stations are not currently set up to deal with the changes (how does a disabled person get on and off a train with no-one to put the ramp out? How do people without smart phones buy tickets with no ticket machine at their station and no guard on the train? How do you get off at a request stop with no way of telling the driver - currently you speak to the guard?) FB friend clearly hadn't thought it through and obviously reads the wrong newspapers (in my opinion!) But it means the Tories are successfully deflecting the blame.

SavoirFlair · 19/12/2022 13:29

@Timeforabiscuit you said

but my rage is reserved for Labour, they are meant to be an opposition party - what on earth have they done about the situation

they’re in opposition?? What do you expect them to have “done”?

They have clear and costed policies on this stuff but you’ve been conditioned to blame them, so.. here you are blaming them?

Time for a biscuit? I’d say so 🍪

Timeforabiscuit · 19/12/2022 14:25

Nope @SavoirFlair , I checked the new manifesto stronger together, lip service to public sector but absolutely no policy detail for NHS or social care.

Commission on the uks future is similarly weak.

They've focused on the reforming the house of Lords of all things, and giving local authorities more powers to raise funds (I assume that's council tax or business rates) and devolving (difficult) decision making declaring that its currently over centralised.

P24 talks about the NHS and public sector but then goes straight on to failing trust in the political system, which side steps the issues in my opinion, kicking responsibility for failing systems to local authorities in no position to fix them and then claim a win because they've had an open conversation about it, is fucking disgraceful.

So if they have a clear costed policy I can't find it. Unless you are talking about the national care service in scotland?

Kassiopeia · 02/01/2023 11:30

SavoirFlair · 19/12/2022 08:03

I agree with all of this. But we live in an age where enough people are happy to have their buttons pushed by mainstream media, and the Tories know that blame figures are often a satisfying emotional shortcut

also, too many people who’ve benefited from cheap PCP deals, cheaper mortgages, and a bit of spending power in the last 12 years, automatically see themselves as a closet “Tory” because anything else is “unaspirational”.

these are the people who when the next General Election happens, could keep the Tories in a hung Parliament or worse.

Yes, a 'Hung' parliament seems like a very good idea . . .

TooBigForMyBoots · 02/01/2023 11:37

The Tories are blaming everyone for everything.🙄 I've heard that the song they're using in the next election campaign is It Wasn't Me by Shaggy.

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