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To tell you iPads are actually good for kids

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PennyRa · 19/12/2022 00:04

This is something I researched extensively for my thesis in technology and education. iPads, tablets, phones, they all show positive effects on their development. Yes, including social.

I've seen a lot of anti screens on here recently but there is nothing wrong with kids in buggys on tablets, kids in cafes on iPads.

There are obviously caveats, some content is bad. It's on a scale but it's easy to see; a child playing Duolingo is vastly better than candy crush, a child watching How it's made is vastly better than cocomelon. Also the content needs to be locked and monitored for safety. However, tailored content can be better than a teacher.

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Idratherbepaddleboarding · 19/12/2022 05:53

Ok, 1. You’ll need to provide some actual evidence if you want people to believe you and 2. Children aren’t watching hours of Royal Institution lectures, they’re watching other kids playing video games in You Tube.

Pastash · 19/12/2022 05:58

I’ve relaxed on having the tv on when my one year old is in the room but that’s because she doesn’t sit glued to it. She loves Kevin from Grand Designs and laughs every time he comes on screen. I don’t think screens are inherently bad and in of themselves.
However it’s opportunity cost. Maybe when my daughter is watching Kevin she is missing out on concentrating on advancing her skills with her toys.
That child in the cafe on the iPad is not learning how to interact with others in a public setting, and is losing out on the language and social skills development that would otherwise occur.

You can tell me I’m really smug but when my baby is on the tram into town with me she sits on my knee/stands in front of me, looks around, points out doggies, has a look out the window whilst I comment on anything interesting, and waves bye at people who are getting off. Each trip is a tiny snippet of learning and experience as opposed to being sat in her buggy with a phone and learning nothing.

hopeisathingwithfeathersx · 19/12/2022 06:04

Please could you link to the research?

curiouslycinnamon · 19/12/2022 06:05

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 19/12/2022 05:53

Ok, 1. You’ll need to provide some actual evidence if you want people to believe you and 2. Children aren’t watching hours of Royal Institution lectures, they’re watching other kids playing video games in You Tube.

😂This!

What you're saying is not revolutionary at all. Back when TV first became a thing and kids were told they would get 'square eyes', there were plenty of people advocating that TV was great if they watched the correct educational material instead of cartoons.

Of course watching documentaries and learning languages is 'good', however it's not what they're doing!

So how does your research recommend getting kids away from cocomelon and onto 'how it's made'?

Ylvamoon · 19/12/2022 06:05

It's reassuring that OP thinks children should be glued to a screen instead of engaging with the world around them.

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Itsthewhitehat · 19/12/2022 06:09

Of course they are great for kids. But it all about the context.

I don’t believe that hours and hours of anything on a tablet is great for a child. They need lots of different forms of interactions, including in person interaction.

The content obviously matters. But then does keeping an eye on how they are when they can’t have it or come off it.

Tablets can be good or bad and it’s down to the adults supervising it and supervising it properly.

Ocrumbs · 19/12/2022 06:13

Is your thesis published? Could you share a link? Or a link to any of the research.

BeanieTeen · 19/12/2022 06:17

I think this makes as much sense as saying ‘alcohol is actually good for you’ just because research shows a glass of red wine a few times a week can be beneficial. Fact is, most people aren’t just drinking the odd glass of red. Fact is also, the same benefits can be reaped from a glass of plain grape juice.
Most kids are not using iPads to watch animal documentaries. And you don’t need an iPad to learn about animals.

Usee8789754 · 19/12/2022 06:23

Absolute bollocks.

My dc have grown up with screens. Until they were teens I was quite strict with them. I lost control at the point at which school insisted that every child have a laptop. They are now completely addicted and it’s had a detrimental effect on their lives.

your research is bollocks and clearly flawed. I suggest you rethink your methods before you submit it anywhere.

plus you’re shears going to get peoples backs up preaching at then like you’re the font of all knowledge.

TofuonToast · 19/12/2022 06:25

Hey Bill 👋

thewinterwitch · 19/12/2022 06:32

Yes, they are really good for posture! Not. Does your research include "tech neck" and the other spinal problems that develop from these positions?

FedUpToTheBackTooth · 19/12/2022 06:40

That fact that you thought this was a good idea to post with no actual evidence or facts, makes me doubt the quality of your research.

Etinoxaurus · 19/12/2022 06:41

“Better” Hmm
I’m sure your thesis was a little more complex.

LolaSmiles · 19/12/2022 06:48

It's interesting that your thesis has managed to conclude iPads/tablets/phones are good for children when a lot of experienced researchers are still saying that is still a complex area with lots of nuance.

Context also matters. A child in a language-rich environment, with a range of educational experiences, watching educational content during a small amount of screen time is very different from a child who is given a tablet /telly/phone to distract them and keep them quiet so they watch huge amounts of poor quality content at the expense of human interaction and exploring the world.

Mariposista · 19/12/2022 07:05

Yes of course they are. And I’m a bunny rabbit 🙄🙄🙄

Wishawisha · 19/12/2022 07:56

They are terrible for young children’s eyesight.

PennyRa · 19/12/2022 16:17

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 19/12/2022 01:15

Ooh this should be good!

People on MN get fiercely upset about kids they don’t know being in an iPad. I’ll grab the popcorn.

That's why I feel like I should say something, all the false outrage

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PennyRa · 19/12/2022 16:26

Waitingfordecember · 19/12/2022 02:14

I’d be really interested to read your research? Me and DH were just talking today about how, in the past, reading fiction novels (especially romances like Pride and Prejudice) was seen as something that would rot your brain… now we all want children to read. I wonder what people in the future will think about screens?

I'm obviously no going to dox myself but there are a lot of papers out there in this area. I think I used 20 something for the harm/benefit section alone. One of them was old on the use of calculators in school because people thought it would produce a generation devoid of any mathematicians, which obviously didn't happen and seems laughable by today's society.

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SleeplessInEngland · 19/12/2022 16:27

Greatly · 19/12/2022 00:09

No, just regular analogue books made of paper. Never had an ipad, don't see the point of them.

Well if you can't see the point in something I guess it's pointless.

titchy · 19/12/2022 16:31

I'm obviously no going to dox myself but there are a lot of papers out there in this area

Then link to some Hmm

JenniferBarkley · 19/12/2022 16:42

As a mathematician I can confidently tell you that many of us are shite at mental arithmetic as we always have a calculator in arm's reach Grin

JenniferBarkley · 19/12/2022 16:43

And calculators are useless for any real maths.

PennyRa · 19/12/2022 16:43

EarringsandLipstick · 19/12/2022 02:14

Hours of Royal institution lecturers yes,

That's not how learning works. It's not as simple as the quality of the content - it's about the medium, and the suitability of that medium for the content, purpose & audience.

So a child looking at a screen with the content you mention will gain no benefit at all, as pedagogically, they won't have an opportunity to interact or engage with it in a way that will make sense for them.

Screens have their benefits; and their drawbacks.

Please share your 'research'? 🙂

You think watching a lecture that you are interested in has NO educational benefits‽ What on earth do you think education is?

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PennyRa · 19/12/2022 16:46

BeanieTeen · 19/12/2022 05:10

But anything that’s a ‘pro’ about a device can be achieved without a device for the most part - that doesn’t make the device good, just the activity itself. On the whole, devices are just way to stimulating and addictive for children, especially young ones. And adults. I can’t sleep and here I am scrolling MN, it’s not going to help… goes off to put down phone and pick up book…

Not unless you are Richie Rich

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TheRookieMum · 19/12/2022 16:46

So 1 caveat of your research is that tech benefits older kids. No buggy aged kid, for example, is going to be watching a lecture, surely?!

Perhaps you could share your other caveats if you can't share your thesis?

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