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Going to the opera AIBU

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ABigSalad123 · 18/12/2022 11:50

I’m taking a relative to the opera as a birthday present, and we’re going to a production where there will be surtitles (screens in the theatre showing the text in English that is being sung during the opera). For further info, the opera will be sung in English.

I’ve just found out though that we won’t be able to see the surtitles from our seats(!!) Does anyone know if this might be an issue? Ideally I would like us to be able to see them.

I’m going to ring the theatre to see if I can change the tickets, but also just wanted to see on here if anyone has any thoughts on this. (And yes, I’m feeling like a prize idiot right now!)

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WhaleTanker · 18/12/2022 11:59

Which opera is it?

WhaleTanker · 18/12/2022 12:00

And which theatre? In Vienna, for example,they have gadgets at the seat where you can choose the language of subtitles, and its displayed at your seat.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 18/12/2022 12:02

If the opera is sung in English, you won’t need subtitles at all.

ShinyMe · 18/12/2022 12:03

I've never seen an opera where the surtitles aren't visible! Where are you going for it?

Wakeywake · 18/12/2022 12:04

But the opera is sung in English? What's the problem?

Gruelle · 18/12/2022 12:04

Surtitles can be awfully distracting if you don’t need them.

Unless the thing you’re going to see is extremely new you can probably find the full text somewhere online - in addition to a full synopsis. So you could read ahead and then just enjoy the sound and spectacle during the performance?

Everydaywheniwakeup · 18/12/2022 12:06

I don't think it makes much difference - the opera is less about the words and more about the music and acting and emotion of it all, so even though you may not understand a word, it just feels beautiful.
(And some of the lyrics are a bit nonsense sometimes and in English they don't sound as beautiful).

Everydaywheniwakeup · 18/12/2022 12:07

I totally missed the opera is in English. What is the problem??

ABigSalad123 · 18/12/2022 12:12

Thanks all! Thankfully I’ve just got the tickets changed, so we can see the surtitles if needed. I totally understand your point that the surtitles aren’t needed if the opera is in English - I agree, but was thinking they might be helpful for the relative I’m going with, who can’t always hear very well when they go to the theatre. We’re seeing the opera in the UK (English translation of Carmen). I’m really looking forward to it.

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SweetSakura · 18/12/2022 12:12

Everydaywheniwakeup · 18/12/2022 12:06

I don't think it makes much difference - the opera is less about the words and more about the music and acting and emotion of it all, so even though you may not understand a word, it just feels beautiful.
(And some of the lyrics are a bit nonsense sometimes and in English they don't sound as beautiful).

This is how I feel. I have never minded hearing opera in a foreign language for this reason.

kingtamponthefurred · 18/12/2022 12:19

You can find the libretto online and read it before the performance.

ichundich · 18/12/2022 12:23

Opera lyrics tend to be quite repetitive and dull. You can buy a programme at the venue or look up the plot / libretto online. I disagree with people saying that if the opera is sung in English, you will be able to understand the lyrics.

dropthevipers · 18/12/2022 12:33

All you need to know about opera is that at the end, she dies. The rest is just faff.

HowVeryLikeSibella · 18/12/2022 12:34

I think you've done the right thing in changing your seats. Operas have surtitles for a reason: the demands of singing in such a was as to fill an entire opera house with an unamplified soprano voice over an orchestra are often incompatible with intelligibility, especially if your hearing has deteriorated slightly with age.

If you happen to know the libretto well anyway, have perfect hearing, or be content just to let the music wash over you then that's fine, but surtitles are a godsend for people who don't fit into those groups.

snowinthesticks · 18/12/2022 12:40

I love opera but don't hear any of the words. I don't think they matter at all.
What I would do is make sure you know the music before you go as it adds to it if it's familiar.

Gruelle · 18/12/2022 12:56

Opera lyrics tend to be quite repetitive and dull.

You’re going to the wrong things!

ABigSalad123 · 18/12/2022 12:59

HowVeryLikeSibella · 18/12/2022 12:34

I think you've done the right thing in changing your seats. Operas have surtitles for a reason: the demands of singing in such a was as to fill an entire opera house with an unamplified soprano voice over an orchestra are often incompatible with intelligibility, especially if your hearing has deteriorated slightly with age.

If you happen to know the libretto well anyway, have perfect hearing, or be content just to let the music wash over you then that's fine, but surtitles are a godsend for people who don't fit into those groups.

Thanks Sibella! Those were my thoughts exactly.

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AnnaMagnani · 18/12/2022 14:56

Even in English, you can really need the surtitles! Not every singer has great diction and not every theatre has good acoustics.

LivIoe · 18/12/2022 14:58

If it’s ENO they this on loads of seats but seem to be overly cautious, I’ve sat multiple times in seats where they’ve said this but the subtitles have been easily in view

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