Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think these are appalling lyrics in junior school Xmas play?

71 replies

greenwoodpecker101 · 15/12/2022 15:28

At my child’s school. For older age prImary school children. And the kids are singing a song with the chorus ‘Counting down the calories to Christmas’, with lines like ‘I’m watching the dial on the scale’ ‘I’m resisting temptation’,

They are getting young kids, particularly young girls on the cusp of puberty, to sing a song extolling the virtues of obsessive attention to food and weight, restricting eating and losing weight, presumably so you can binge eat over Xmas. Or maybe it’s just trying to instill a general fear of tasty food. I dunno.

This isn’t a genuine AIBU as I don’t think I am. Healthy attitudes to food are important. People with healthy relationships to food don’t need to panic and restrict food before Xmas.

I don’t think kids should be taught this is normal or good behaviour around food by being made to sing a cheery song about it. Especially not girls.

OP posts:
greenwoodpecker101 · 15/12/2022 19:09

Bonjovispyjamas · 15/12/2022 18:21

@Puffalicious It kicked off a lifetime of yoyo dieting. I remember being delighted that I'd lost 3lbs the first week even though I didn't need to, then devastated the other weeks if I hadn't lost anything, so would starve myself, give up then binge and any yoyo dieter knows whenever you give up, you not only put the weight you've lost back on but more besides and I'm convinced that was where it started. I'm still yoyo dieting years later, even though I know diets don't work and I know that was where it all began, I was 11😡

Exactly the same thing happened to a friend of mine, at school, at the same age. Ended up morbidly obese adult with bulimia.

OP posts:
Bonjovispyjamas · 15/12/2022 19:11

@greenwoodpecker101 Some teachers have a lot to answer for.

greenwoodpecker101 · 15/12/2022 19:13

BatCheeseIsFine · 15/12/2022 17:55

There is so much of this kind of shit in schools. All the endless handwringing bollocks about inclusiveness and respect and kindness blah blah and then outrageous stuff like this gets waved through and no one joins the dots. It does my head in!

We had one about "Christmas around the world" complete with an array of practically victorian racial stereotypes representing people around the world, many of whom typically aren't even Christian and don't do Christmas. There were black, Chinese, Indian etc kids in the performance being required to perform stereotypes about themselves and even then no one in charge thought "hang on this is a bit bloody offensive" Hmm

Oh my God! We had this one year too! Our school is almost exclusively white, so there were white kids dressed in grass skirts to represent black people living in Africa, and white kids in pointy hats to represent chinese people in China.

And also this year a little boy who wanted to be an angel was told he could not be as he was a boy.

I do feel like a live in the place that time forgot. Or Little Britain, as pp said.

OP posts:
TheyreOnlyNoodlesMichael · 15/12/2022 19:15

Funkyblues101 · 15/12/2022 17:29

Whilst I do agree, on the other hand, the nation is being crippled by the costs of excessive bad diet, far more than anorexia etc. As a nation, we need to stop eating crap, even if it's Christmas.

I hope OP goes mad at the school and then there's a chance that those poor kids won't grow up to end up like you. Imagine this being your only take away from a thread like this. How sad.

Redebs · 15/12/2022 19:21

It's horrendous! Talking about modelling, pinching fat and 'looking good for Santa' to get better gifts.

Completely inappropriate, sexist, misogynist, unhealthy drivel!

BagpussSaggyOldClothCat · 15/12/2022 19:29

This hit a nerve as my teen dd is very poorly at the moment with anorexia.
The word 'calories' sent a shiver down my spine.

Schools should to be the antidote to the damaging stuff our young people see online and in the media. It's unbelievable that no staff member in the school picked up on how awful this is 😞

ScrollingLeaves · 15/12/2022 19:39

Wrecks Christmas. That’s so awful. I don’t think I could endure letting my child stay there. I know it may be difficult to move schools though.

ScrollingLeaves · 15/12/2022 19:41

Reducing a Christmas song to the level of a trashy diet magazine is just horrible.

ScrollingLeaves · 15/12/2022 19:47

And also this year a little boy who wanted to be an angel was told he could not be as he was a boy.

No!!

Have they not heard of the Angel Gabriel? And Michael? And Raphael?

So the school is ignorant apart from anything else, but it is also outrageous and against DoE guidelines to tell children there are ‘
girls’ activities or toys and boys’ activities or toys etc.

ScrollingLeaves · 15/12/2022 19:51

Funkyblues101 · Today 17:29
Whilst I do agree, on the other hand, the nation is being crippled by the costs of excessive bad diet, far more than anorexia etc. As a nation, we need to stop eating crap, even if it's Christmas.

Diets don’t just cause anorexia. In many children they can cause bulimia and binge-eating disorder which leads to weight gain.

Fat pinching and ‘diets’ shouldn’t be put into children’s minds.

This has no place in a Christmas song anyway.

Y7drama · 15/12/2022 19:55

That’s awful OP. I’d be furious, it’s so inappropriate.

lokss · 15/12/2022 20:02

As someone nicknamed 'tree trunk legs', in year 5, I am appalled this is allowed and I'd demand the safeguarding team are informed to remove this absolute trash

I was born in 98! Year 5 for me was 2010.

Horrible children these days should continue to have dieting and 'weight' pushed in their faces ffs

RegularNameChangerVersion21 · 15/12/2022 20:04

YANBU. Even as a joke that's a terrible, terrible message. Kids (especially girls) are getting this message everywhere and it's incredibly damaging. They shouldn't be getting it at school too.

procrastinator8 · 15/12/2022 20:08

This kind of shit is so pervasive. Same as teachers or dinner ladies telling children when they can have their pudding at lunch time (if the child has eaten ‘enough’), chocolate ‘treats’ etc constantly. It’s so engrained in culture.

Bagzzz · 15/12/2022 20:16

Inappropriate for the children re their own weight.
i have been to Weightwatchers and sketch would be awful for the children who would sometimes be at the back while their parent nipped in the get weighed. Losing weight is tough and if you are unhealthy through weight really important.

Coyoacan · 15/12/2022 20:30

I'm shocked at the people on here who think that a good diet is counting calories.

The obesity epidemic around the world is the result of processed food and soft drinks. If everyone had a healthy diet with lots of fruit and vegetables and good quality proteins, some people would be a bit overweight and a few people would be obese, but nothing like the levels we have at the moment.

fuckfuckfuck2021 · 15/12/2022 20:36

Highly inappropriate and I would definitely complain. How do they think it is acceptable to get kids to sing songs and preform a play like that?

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 15/12/2022 21:59

FFS, that p's me off more than the misogynistic, low female aspiration bobbins they roll out for Mother's Day.

So glad primary school is behind us.

RamblingEclectic · 21/12/2022 11:11

YANBU, that's awful. and here I thought my DD's school having a young girl singing the full version of Santa Baby was a bit questionable.

bridgetreilly · 21/12/2022 11:44

WTAF? The original lyric was bad, but the attached script is vile. Why on earth is any school choosing to impose this on their pupils? Just do a nativity.

NeedToChangeName · 21/12/2022 12:12

CremeEggsForBreakfast · 15/12/2022 16:24

I've just googled and the whole play is a bit weird. I was hoping that the song would be in a more positive context with some expansion on enjoying Christmas but no. It's an entire fat-shaming scene for small childre. WT actual F!?

Gosh that is weird

New posts on this thread. Refresh page