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Is this a reasonable request of a nanny?

238 replies

solomam · 12/12/2022 10:44

Ok so... please hear me out as I have never before had a nanny or considered one - I will openly admit I know nothing about the services they are willing to offer.

Can anyone who has either been a nanny or had one, tell me whether it's a reasonable ask to pay someone to come to my home for literally 1 hour every morning to help with the morning routine? That's all I need. Nothing more.

Or would they all laugh at me for being ridiculous?

OP posts:
Jb2182 · 12/12/2022 12:40

solomam · 12/12/2022 10:48

Thanks @DunkingMyDonuts

Its actually only 4 days I would need so £60 a week. A price worth paying though for the stress it would remove from my life!

I've been a nanny for 14 years and up until recently I was doing the hour before school for a lovely family. I'm sure you'll find somone to do it ♥ good luck xxx

Pollyputthekettleonha · 12/12/2022 12:41

I can see this being appealing to someone very local, in fact would do it myself if it was for a nearby neighbour. I'm not a nanny though. I second asking on the next door app or your local Facebook group.

solomam · 12/12/2022 12:44

TabithaTittlemouse · 12/12/2022 11:58

My ds (17) did this until recently 6-7. He really enjoyed it and although they no longer need him in the mornings now he often babysits in the evening.
He liked that it fitted in with his day, he was earning and got on really well with the family. He had to get them breakfast, encourage them to dress (didn’t physically help). Make sure they brushed their teeth etc.

We are very rural and he saw an ad in the post office. The family asked for references which he was able to give.

Good luck!

Oh fantastic!

OP posts:
MaryShelley1818 · 12/12/2022 12:45

I don't think you're unreasonable to request it but as others said you may find it difficult to get the perfect person.
While you're waiting I'd take the advice of others and try and tweak your routine a bit. Do whatever you need to to make things easier. 2 mornings a week my one year old goes to grandparents, it means a very early start (6am) as DH drops her off on the way to work. We put her packed bag in the car the night before, then just wake her up, put a zip up fleece over the top of her pjs and stick her Slippers on! I'm sure nursery wouldn't mind your little one arriving in pjs and having breakfast there 😀

OhPeggySue · 12/12/2022 12:47

You may not want to, so feel free to ignore but if you say more about your morning routine and its challenges, you'll get some very good advice on how to tweak and improve it. There are some very inventive people on here who know all the tricks cos they've been there done that!

napody · 12/12/2022 12:47

UnsolicitedOpinions · 12/12/2022 11:44

I think you’ll find it difficult to get someone unless it fits in very conveniently with their life/other job somehow. Eg someone who has just done a night shift and is on their way home.

Not many people are going to want to get up so early for so little work/pay.

If someone offered me £15 to just come downstairs to my own kitchen at 5am I don’t think I would do it!

This made me laugh- I'm a morning person but gave to agree. Getting up at 5am is VERY different to 6am, it'd really mess with your body clock if you wanted a normal life.

I think nursery is the way to go OP- either asking a member of staff to come to yours first or as a pp suggested pay them extra to get your child dressed and breakfasted there.

BatshitCrazyWoman · 12/12/2022 12:47

I would also have done it, OP, when I was a sixth former. I did a lot of babysitting at that age, and most of my families lived walking distance from my house. And in the school holidays I used to go and entertain the child of a woman who worked from home as a translator. I was a very sensible, reliable, early-rising teen 🤣

AbreathofFrenchair · 12/12/2022 12:50

tenbob · 12/12/2022 12:30

Did you miss the part where this job is for 4 hours a week..?

someone working 4 hours per week and earning £80 won’t need to have their employer pay tax, NI or pension contributions 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

I did.

Why did you need to be such a bitch in the response though? Unless of course it's your job to monitor the threads, then feel free to remove my reply.

NurseryNurse10 · 12/12/2022 12:55

Feel free to message me any parent on here who is struggling to get wraparound care. I may be able to help.

crosstalk · 12/12/2022 12:55

Rural town here. I know quite a few (mostly) women who do this for senior care - obviously with their own children having flown the nest - so getting somewhere for 6am for a whole hour with a young baby - possibly taking them to nursery for 730 isn't impossible. Would be dependent on wages.

Tessabelle74 · 12/12/2022 12:56

What do you need to do that you can't manage getting yourself and one child ready in a morning? I get myself and 4 kids sorted and to 2 different schools before starting work at 9am! I think you'll be highly unlikely to find anyone willing to do this for you unless there's a little old retired lady locally wants a bit of bingo money.

AbreathofFrenchair · 12/12/2022 12:59

tenbob · 12/12/2022 12:30

Did you miss the part where this job is for 4 hours a week..?

someone working 4 hours per week and earning £80 won’t need to have their employer pay tax, NI or pension contributions 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

And before you decided to.moderate my posts, she asked for a Nanny. Regardless of how little hours they work, you are STILL required to employ them.

It would appear YOU are the one getting confused between a Nanny and a casual paid cash in hand worker which is why I asked if she knew the difference and was aware of what hiring a nanny involved.

Nannies aren't the Generic name for people who look after children and it pisses me off when people can't be bothered to understand the difference because they don't regard it a good enough profession.

Dixiechickonhols · 12/12/2022 12:59

Our milkman has a lad with him helping. Paper rounds are early hours.
Potentially this is good money, set hours and may lead to more hours eg babysitting. Don’t underestimate set hours - lots of jobs are uncertain shifts. Even if not it’s good experience for a teen wanting to pick up more babysitting work or go into a caring type career.
Retired people often like a little job to keep routine - eg a lollipop man it’s an hour or two a day.
I bet you get applicants.

ittakes2 · 12/12/2022 12:59

I think the point is find some one local who is literally 5 mins away might suit a retiree who wants extra cash and interaction

ittakes2 · 12/12/2022 13:00

You could also ask a teen and then they could do baby sitting for you won’t cost as much if a teen

SnackSizeRaisin · 12/12/2022 13:00

I'd try an ad in the post office.

In terms of morning routine, put child to bed in their clothes and let them have breakfast at nursery. Then all you need to do is wipe their face and change their nappy. For yourself, shower in the evening and then just get dressed wash face and eat your own breakfast, clean your teeth. Do everything else the night before. It will still probably take an hour to get you both ready though!

Delatron · 12/12/2022 13:01

I wish people would stop offering solutions about the OP’s routine. She is perfectly happy to throw money at having a less stressful morning. Good for her. Just like we could all clean our homes but some of us prefer to pay for someone else to do it for a few hours a week. Ditto gardening and dog walking.
So leave it out.

I think if you put something on a local Facebook group it may well suit a local nursery worker who wants to earn a bit more before work or a student. I’d probably tag on half an hour for a bit of tidying/cleaning to make it worth their while.

Some people are early birds.

Scotty12 · 12/12/2022 13:01

Not unreasonable but I would be surprised if you could find anyone who would do this. If you are desperate then you probably need to pay more or make it longer like a minimum of 3 hours.

NoelNoNoel · 12/12/2022 13:04

£320 per month is a lot of Lidl food, I think you’ll get someone to do it. A parent perhaps who’s partner who hasn’t left to go to work.

tenbob · 12/12/2022 13:04

AbreathofFrenchair · 12/12/2022 12:50

I did.

Why did you need to be such a bitch in the response though? Unless of course it's your job to monitor the threads, then feel free to remove my reply.

Where was I a bitch?

you posted a totally irrelevant response to the thread

Dixiechickonhols · 12/12/2022 13:06

Nanny isn’t a protected job title though? There are very few protected titles eg nurse isn’t, lawyer isn’t but solicitor is.
I’d class this as a mothers help but if op wants to advertise as morning nanny that’s fine.

tenbob · 12/12/2022 13:08

AbreathofFrenchair · 12/12/2022 12:59

And before you decided to.moderate my posts, she asked for a Nanny. Regardless of how little hours they work, you are STILL required to employ them.

It would appear YOU are the one getting confused between a Nanny and a casual paid cash in hand worker which is why I asked if she knew the difference and was aware of what hiring a nanny involved.

Nannies aren't the Generic name for people who look after children and it pisses me off when people can't be bothered to understand the difference because they don't regard it a good enough profession.

I’ve employed nannies for ages, I know the obligations seemingly better than you, given you asked if OP was going to pay tax, NI and pension contributions for someone earning well under the qualifying amount

And ‘nanny’ isn’t a protected title, so it very much is a generic term for anyone looking after children
You don’t need any specific qualifications or registration to call yourself a nanny, and you can be a self-employed, freelance or contract nanny.

SnackSizeRaisin · 12/12/2022 13:14

AbreathofFrenchair · 12/12/2022 12:50

I did.

Why did you need to be such a bitch in the response though? Unless of course it's your job to monitor the threads, then feel free to remove my reply.

Someone earning 80 per week will need to be an employee. They won't pay tax but will pay NI and their employer will need to pay NI too. Cash in hand for regular employment is illegal (though chances are you'd get away with it)

reluctantlogin · 12/12/2022 13:16

You say to come to your house. Is the concept of a live in person an option ? might be a mutually advantageous deal to be done . I fully realise that you may not have space/ want to share your home. Apologies if you have mentioned this.

Mabelface · 12/12/2022 13:22

As a middle aged, menopausal woman who can no longer lie in, this is something I'd consider if you were only 10 minutes walk away. I work from home 8-4 so it would be easy money for me. Used to getting 4 kids up and out early when younger.