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Ungrateful brother

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Positivityonemoretime · 10/12/2022 22:36

Ok, so my brother came to UK to study in university 3 years ago. I financed the course he studied and paid ten thousand. Then he wanted to study further (a very tough course) which is for 2 years and the first instalment of ten thousand was paid by my parents. Then second was paid by me that is four thousand. All this while he was staying in my house and I was bearing all his expenses including pocket money, food, clothes etc.

He was at the beginning of his third semester (start of Covid lockdown ) when he suddenly started living outside stating that he’s living at his friend’s house. All lockdown he didn’t come to ours and slowly stopped picking calls and responding to messages. Being worried I used to call his university asking for his well being and sometimes also called police as he would not call or messages and my parents who live in another country were worried.

After a year, he called my mum and told them that he has a girlfriend and expecting their first child. Now the problem is I called him at my responsibility and he has betrayed my trust. His announcement has come as a cultural shock to my parents as in our family no one has child outside the wedlock. He’s the only son of my parents and he had damaged them completely. I know in this part of the world it’s very normal to have child without being married and I respect that and don’t judge.

Before he left my house (during lockdown ) he asked me £2000 for something and I gave him. After a year and half he came to my house to take his suitcase and behaved so weird. He was like a mad person, coming to hit me and had careless attitude . Since then he never calls me or pick my call or message me. Very weird ! He would call me parents once in 3-4 months. They are always asking for him, crying and begging him to come and see them but this person’s heart would not melt a bit. I wonder how much a person can change in a year ? From being a lovely son, brother to this cold blooded person. Plus how ungrateful of him. I did so much for him and in return he gave me this. My parents blame me for all this and I don’t complain as I was the one who called him to UK so that he could study and do well in life.

Last year I received a letter from his university that he needs to pay ten thousand fees for his third semester. I made him and his partner aware of it but today I again received a letter saying that they will take legal action if not paid. He has changed address for bank, Job and everything but cunningly not for university. What should I do ? I don’t know his address, don’t know anything about his whereabouts. How can I complain about him ? He’s in what’s app but hardly open my messages. I’m so angry at him and hoping the karma hits him back soon.

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BMW6 · 11/12/2022 06:43

OP in my opinion it us the responsibility of every parent to provide for their children, BUT those children should not be in thrall to their parents.

It does rather sound like he was expected to live his life in accordance with your parents wishes, and that's not right.

I am pretty shocked by your attitude towards his partner and their child. You want nothing to do with them because why exactly?

Perhaps your brother has distanced himself from you all because he knew how you would react - with prejudice and intolerance.

panko · 11/12/2022 06:47

Tell the uni he doesnt live with you anymore.

Fairyliz · 11/12/2022 06:56

Sounds like they did all of this so that he would get a good job and that would reflect well on them.
Instead he appears to have come here and found love.
What do you think is the most important op?

FlamingJingleBells · 11/12/2022 07:00

He'll come crawling back after he's run out of money and can't get a job because he's only partially qualified. At this point, don't pay for him because he's chosen freedom.

So with freedom comes responsible & that means paying for his baby & partner now. He wants the free, western lifestyle then fine as long as he pays for it. If he doesn't then he's an entitled user who fleeces people into paying for him.

If he can abandon his own family then he'll probably ditch his girlfriend when things get too hard for him. Men like this usually do so be prepared for him to contact you again in the future. Don't give him anymore money.

You might be able to trace your brother via the council's electoral register at his university town. If he still lives there, he might be on the open electoral register. However, he might have moved towns & /or opted out of the electoral register. If you find him, forward on the letter to him & notify the university of his new address.

Positivityonemoretime · 11/12/2022 07:04

@junebirthdaygirl in the beginning I’ve tried many times to be in touch with him and his partner. I messaged her number of times but she didn’t sound interested. All the time she would only boasts that she got the man of her dreams. He’s so educated and our future is so bright and so on……. After talking to her, it only seems that she’s happy thinking about the future that my stupid brother will bring to her. But I know him so well. Sometimes I think he used her to stay in this country and sooner or later the relationship will break. My brother is very selfish as I know him since childhood. The only thing they both keep talking and dreaming about is money. My brother didn’t even worked for a week when he stayed with me and lived off on my money. I believe she got impressed partly with the (my) money he spent on her as later on I got to know he took her on holidays and stayed at expensive hotels.

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ASDADHDBAME · 11/12/2022 07:12

FlamingJingleBells · 11/12/2022 07:00

He'll come crawling back after he's run out of money and can't get a job because he's only partially qualified. At this point, don't pay for him because he's chosen freedom.

So with freedom comes responsible & that means paying for his baby & partner now. He wants the free, western lifestyle then fine as long as he pays for it. If he doesn't then he's an entitled user who fleeces people into paying for him.

If he can abandon his own family then he'll probably ditch his girlfriend when things get too hard for him. Men like this usually do so be prepared for him to contact you again in the future. Don't give him anymore money.

You might be able to trace your brother via the council's electoral register at his university town. If he still lives there, he might be on the open electoral register. However, he might have moved towns & /or opted out of the electoral register. If you find him, forward on the letter to him & notify the university of his new address.

This ^

Whilst I don't like the idea of cultural expectations, he has had a significant amount of money from you and to just go no contact with you and your parents is bang out of order (unless there is abuse we don't know about). He owes them an explanation. Hate it when people say 'he doesn't owe you anything' of course he does. Your parents presumably raised him and loved him and financed a good life. He at least owes them a final explanation of his current life and how they respond will dictate further contact!

I would want to be be involved in his life if I knew I had a nephew or niece that I was missing. So be careful of how you respond to him.

Positivityonemoretime · 11/12/2022 07:15

@BMW6 I understand parents do out of love but don’t they deserve a call or a nice message asking their well being. Nobody is against his love but he should have respected and at least inform them rather doing such things. Back home they live in a society where people looked down upon such things. They are at their60’s and at this age they can’t fight with the society and he had very well known that what his parents will face. They haven’t even told anyone yet, we are still telling everyone that he is doing his studies. How selfish and mean not to think about his parents ?

If he loved someone, he would have just told us, we would happily agree and participated in his celebrations.

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Positivityonemoretime · 11/12/2022 07:19

@ASDADHDBAME no abuse of any sort. my mum even asked for a picture to see the baby but he would say his partner wouldn’t agree to share pictures. I am only bothered to be in touch with him only because of my parents as they would ask about him. They are angry with him but care about him also but this idiot would not even care a call for them.

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FlamingJingleBells · 11/12/2022 07:25

Leave him to it and make sure that your parents secure their finances so that your user brother can't financially abuse them anymore. Everybody in your family should secure their finances now in case he contacts you for more money. You can say that you've got nothing left after paying for his last set of fees.

Leave him to his partner and family, let them pay for the waste of space.

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