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Friend using dog training on child?

12 replies

whatashame123 · 08/12/2022 00:08

My friend is mid 30's, this is her first child. She has had numerous badly behaved dogs who bark all day and night
She has decided that saying 'NO' in a firm voice is the best way to deal with a crying baby.

Apparently babies learn the same way as dogs according to her. I find this really odd?
AIBU?

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NuffSaidSam · 08/12/2022 00:11

Babies do learn in the same way as dogs to a point...but I'm not sure dogs learn by just being told 'No' in a firm voice.

It's not ideal to be teaching a baby not to cry either.

AlwaysLatte · 08/12/2022 00:14

You're actually asking if you are being unreasonable to find that odd? Obviously not, it's appalling.

drkpl · 08/12/2022 00:15

How old is the baby? I can understand telling a toddler “no” in a firm voice, but not to crying. It’s odd. Babies and toddlers cry, it’s natural.

RoseslnTheHospital · 08/12/2022 00:19

Are seriously asking? Of course it's wrong, pointless and potentially cruel. A baby won't understand, might be frightened or upset by the tone and lack of response. And importantly the baby's needs won't be met. There will be a reason for crying, which needs addressing. If all possible reasons have been exhausted then baby just needs to be held and soothed. All this is very basic stuff.

thirdfiddle · 08/12/2022 00:29

So it didn't work on the dogs and she thinks it's going to work on the baby? And she's treating a baby crying as equivalent to a dog barking? This woman is dangerously stupid. Do you think she might listen to you? Point out that baby crying is more like a dog yelping in pain or whining out of hunger. It needs something and so does the baby. Or if you think she won't listen to you, hint heavily about how useful xyz book/health visitors advice was for understanding your baby?

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 08/12/2022 00:32

That’s awful!!! The poor baby will be terrified. All it wants is love and reassurance and instead it gets a scream it doesn’t understand

sittingdrinkintea · 08/12/2022 01:15

YANBU…
I was raised who was very into training our doughs, watching related shows and going to classes etc.
She also thought that I could be ‘trained’ like dogs , although I was a lot older than a baby. To the extent that for a good period of time, whenever I did something she didn’t like she would splash/ throw water on me (a method she learned from dog training) and shutting me out the house (in any weather) and not let me back in until I was ‘ready’ to behave. This was all through my adolescence and even teen years. She was incapable of understanding why I didn’t respond in the way she wished.

ErrolTheDragon · 08/12/2022 01:33

So it didn't work on the dogs and she thinks it's going to work on the baby? And she's treating a baby crying as equivalent to a dog barking? This woman is dangerously stupid.

This.
Glad Barbara woodhouse and her bloody choke chain aren't still on tv.

dolor · 08/12/2022 01:37

LOL is this actually real?

ElephantInTheKitchen · 08/12/2022 01:51

All species learn by positive reinforcement, and there's a fair few techniques you can carry over from dogs to babies

Channel 4 even did a programme on it a while back, which was quite sensible but met with some hysteria by people who hadn't actually watched it
www.channel4.com/programmes/train-your-baby-like-a-dog?cntsrc=social_share_android_train_your_baby_like_a_dog

However, no dog has ever learned much by just being told "no" and babies aren't much different in that regard.

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/12/2022 01:58

DD has ADHD and I remember being on the beach every day during the winter, running her. Dog owners would say "LOL just like a dog" and then apologise. I'd agree. Exercise, discipline, affection. Just like Cesar Milan says.

Sternly saying NO to my dog wouldn't work, never mind the kid.

Itstillgoeson · 02/04/2023 14:00

ErrolTheDragon · 08/12/2022 01:33

So it didn't work on the dogs and she thinks it's going to work on the baby? And she's treating a baby crying as equivalent to a dog barking? This woman is dangerously stupid.

This.
Glad Barbara woodhouse and her bloody choke chain aren't still on tv.

I knew a mother of older kids who would use the sharp 'Tsch' from the Cesar Millan training on them to try to make them be quiet. Gross, obviously inappropriate. I would not use it on my dogs!

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