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Just seen notification about a case of Scarlet Fever in my DD's Nursery

44 replies

Tothemoonandbackx · 06/12/2022 20:27

My DD's Nursery like to post about things they have done during the day on Facebook, mainly pictures, so I only tend to look when my DD has been in on her mornings, Wed-Fri. The nursery popped up on my newsfeed saying that they have had a confirmed case of Scarlet Fever. This was only posted yesterday. I have had no other communication from the Nursery, no txt, phone call, email etc to state this has happened, just seen it by chance. I know there are cases of A Strep going around in my local area. I know you should keep children from school for at least 24 hours after antibiotic treatment has started (NHS Guidelines) but would I be totally unreasonable to keep her home this week whilst there has been a positive case??? She only goes in on the mornings 8:30-1:00 , and I have tomorrow morning and all day Friday off from work anyway. I know there may be a chance she could just catch it from somewhere else, but keeping her from somewhere where there has definitely been a case in the last 24 hours wouldn't be bad would it???

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Cuppasoupmonster · 06/12/2022 20:57

CanYouFeelMyHeart · 06/12/2022 20:57

You think other parents don't know how it feels to muddle through winters with bugs left and right?

Not to this degree, no. These aren’t the sort of bugs you can ‘muddle through’ with.

PronounsBaby · 06/12/2022 20:58

@ofwarren thanks, I had thought it was the other way round but you're right. 😊

NameChangeLifeChange · 06/12/2022 20:59

CanYouFeelMyHeart · 06/12/2022 20:57

You think other parents don't know how it feels to muddle through winters with bugs left and right?

I think SAHP can share the worry and sleepless nights but perhaps not the horrible stomach sink when you’re at work and receive yet another call from nursery to collect your child while your much loved career hangs on your line managers ever dwindling sympathy.

HimalayaSalts · 06/12/2022 21:00

YANBU I would keep them home especially that you're off anyway

CanYouFeelMyHeart · 06/12/2022 21:01

Of course they are! @Cuppasoupmonster

If the media wasn't running a daily awful death count you wouldn't be worrying more than at any other time.

carefulcalculator · 06/12/2022 21:02

NameChangeLifeChange · 06/12/2022 20:56

Young children historically were not in nursery, suppose that made it different.

True although my 92 year old nanny who was a primary school teacher said they had incredibly high levels of sickness in the early school years instead. She remembers she had a class of 12 in her village school, 5 different year groups, and over winter it wasn’t unusual to combine all the remaining kids in each class to form 15 or so total school children who weren’t off with illness. Mothers didn’t really work so would be able to keep them off school. You have to build up immunity at some point.

You can't compare though, my father went to school with people who had no shoes - they were malnourished, lived in slums, were overcrowded and were always ill!

My point was only that if you knew Sue's kids up the road had scarelt fever youw ouldn;t have sent yours round there to play, would you? But with nursery parents feel they have to send them in (and with work responsibilities it is very hard not to).

spidereggs · 06/12/2022 21:08

@CanYouFeelMyHeart I think other parents understand to an extent but those who had babies, non childcare children when pandemic broke and who have or have not gone on to have more, are experiencing an entirely different world.

I have spoken to my uncle extensively re this as it is his area and I do think research is needed into the immunity of these children.

spidereggs · 06/12/2022 21:12

Enemy the early days. Baby is born. Baby is visited, in hospital!!!!

Or, baby is born, masks are worn, nobody touches baby, not even dad can visit after birth,,.,home to lockdown, no supermarket trips, no school runs. It's not the same

Bpdqueen · 06/12/2022 21:14

I would keep her off since your at home anyway

Changingmynameyetagain · 06/12/2022 21:17

Cuppasoupmonster · 06/12/2022 20:53

Mums whose kids didn’t go to nursery from the age of 1 just don’t understand what it’s like. Not just the worrying, but the weeks upon weeks of broken sleep, the endlessly cancelled plans, working the week to end the Friday with yet another virus. DD’s weight plummeted when we were going through this and she was a bag of bones after being in nursery for a year - not because of anything underlying but just the constant onslaught of bugs meant she barely fought off one before coming down with another and her appetite took a long hit. I’m sick of people with their breezy ‘calpol up and get on with it’, they’ve got no idea.

My DC are all teenagers but I remember the days of vomiting bugs, chicken pox, random colds and snotty noses, dd catching scarlet fever when she was 4, Ds1 being hospitalised with swine flu in 2009 and DS2 catching rotavirus when he was 3 and losing so much weight he ended up on a drip.
Not one of them went to nursery, they were at home with me as a sahm, we did go to baby groups and soft play and play dates. Didn’t stop them getting sick every other week though.

Coooosd · 06/12/2022 21:21

CanYouFeelMyHeart · 06/12/2022 20:52

And in any case is serious for a vanishingly small percentage of children.

But who wants to risk their child being in the vanishingly small percentage

Patronus · 06/12/2022 21:23

If I was off already I might keep them home, but the main reason being reported by doctors for the spike in cases (which are 2-3 times higher but still negligibly small) is because children haven’t been exposed to circulating viruses and built up childhood immunity in the way we’d seen pre-pandemic.

I don’t think generally ‘isolating’ is a good tactic but agree with a PP who said for highly contagious things like noro and strep A you remove if you can and then do your best for all the other coughs and colds.

Patronus · 06/12/2022 21:24

Coooosd · 06/12/2022 21:21

But who wants to risk their child being in the vanishingly small percentage

True, but how far do you take that? COVID is still in circulation, chicken pox can be deadly etc.

Bewitched005 · 06/12/2022 21:28

CanYouFeelMyHeart · 06/12/2022 20:52

And in any case is serious for a vanishingly small percentage of children.

It is, but for the parents of the children who have tragically died, this statistic is of no comfort whatever.

I would do everything possible to prevent my child (if I had one of that age) coming into contact with a virus. If I knew there was illness in the nursery I would keep them at home
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One of the best things all parents can do is make sure their child does proper hand washing.

Although I do admit, I've been influenced by covid. It's made a lot of people more wary.

AdelineLou · 06/12/2022 21:42

Most recent guidance that we are using with schools.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/scarlet-fever-managing-outbreaks-in-schools-and-nurseries

Tothemoonandbackx · 06/12/2022 21:46

Thank you everyone for your responses, I've spoken to her dad (my ex) and we've both agreed that while there is a definite case, we'll keep her off this week. I've been through the other posts, and have seen that others have obviously been at nursery yesterday and today. Whether the parents knew about the case or not I don't know, so there may be more cases to come. I know there's no sure fire way of preventing her from catching it at some point as it is highly contagious, but I think I'd feel better keeping her off just this once Xxxx

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AdelineLou · 06/12/2022 21:51

To be honest, schools are riddled with this. Some children have been diagnosed with strepA or SF.
Some children are absent with a sore throat and parents being worried and cautious.
Every school I've visited last week and this has the above. Yesterday 10% of the children absent.
I am sure the health service must be inundated with patients.

CanYouFeelMyHeart · 06/12/2022 23:15

spidereggs · 06/12/2022 21:08

@CanYouFeelMyHeart I think other parents understand to an extent but those who had babies, non childcare children when pandemic broke and who have or have not gone on to have more, are experiencing an entirely different world.

I have spoken to my uncle extensively re this as it is his area and I do think research is needed into the immunity of these children.

Yeah that was exactly the observation I was making, that there's a clear difference in parents pre and post pandemic. Not a judgement, an observation. It's interesting and I wonder how it will play out over the years.

CanYouFeelMyHeart · 06/12/2022 23:18

Nobody 'wants' to risk it @Coooosd but...it's life isn't it? Your kids probably get in a car multiple times a week, and there's inherent risk in that but we don't choose to walk our children everywhere or stay home in case they're in a crash.

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