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please help me to find the word I am searching for!

27 replies

minimalistthoughts · 03/12/2022 16:46

I am doing some writing for a project. The word or term that I thought I was searching for is 'by proxy', but I have googled it and it does not mean what I thought it did!

The sentence says that something is lawful but that it is so heavily 'policed' and regulated that it is behaviour that is essentially criminalised ...[by proxy]. But that is not the right term of course.

Can anyone help?

Thanks!

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minimalistthoughts · 03/12/2022 16:47

A more professional / academic word of term for 'in essence' or 'by the back door', I guess.

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PuppyMonkey · 03/12/2022 16:48

By stealth?

CavalierApproach · 03/12/2022 16:49

By default?

De facto?

Marigoldandivy · 03/12/2022 16:49

Stigmatised?

Etinoxaurus · 03/12/2022 16:50

De facto

Fairislefandango · 03/12/2022 16:51

I agree with pp - De facto

gogohmm · 03/12/2022 16:53

"De facto criminalised" would work

Newwardrobe · 03/12/2022 16:53

De jure

Getoff · 03/12/2022 16:54

"in effect" ?

Getoff · 03/12/2022 16:54

or even just "effectively criminalised."

oviraptor21 · 03/12/2022 16:55

Getoff · 03/12/2022 16:54

or even just "effectively criminalised."

This. No fancy words needed.

IchWill · 03/12/2022 16:55

Ummm... I know what you mean. Any of these work?

Direct influence
Influencing factors
Subsequent influences
As a consequence
As a side-effect

Sorry, I'm usually better at this!

MeMyselfandI2 · 03/12/2022 16:56

Per se

Newwardrobe · 03/12/2022 16:56

Or just leave it as essentially criminalised.

SerenaTee · 03/12/2022 16:58

I’d leave it as “essentially criminalised” as you’re just trying to find a fancier way of saying that!

Vinylloving · 03/12/2022 16:59

Also agree with de facto criminalised, you're saying in effect/in reality it is criminalised

Fairislefandango · 03/12/2022 17:04

Effectively works too. There's nothing wrong with using de facto though.

VioletLemon · 03/12/2022 17:07

In effect?

cavily1806 · 03/12/2022 17:18

By association?

user1471592953 · 03/12/2022 17:46

Quasi?

minipie · 03/12/2022 17:54

In effect is best I think. Although I would say the behaviour is in effect “banned” or “prevented” rather than in effect criminalised.

You could also use

In practice

In reality

Effectively

XmasElf10 · 03/12/2022 17:56

By implication.

EmmaAgain22 · 03/12/2022 18:01

minipie · 03/12/2022 17:54

In effect is best I think. Although I would say the behaviour is in effect “banned” or “prevented” rather than in effect criminalised.

You could also use

In practice

In reality

Effectively

These

minimalistthoughts · 03/12/2022 18:18

Thank you all so much for the very helpful suggestions. These are excellent.

I think I will go with de facto but will use the other suggestions elsewhere. Also really like quasi and de jure.

Cheers everyone !

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BrioNotBiro · 03/12/2022 20:20

De jure is the opposite of de facto; it's by right not by custom, so don't use that.