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Strep A infection

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Sallydimebar · 02/12/2022 14:07

Just heard on radio how 4 children have now died of this within the month . Advise is to seek urgent medical care if worried .

How worried should we be about this infection? And am I being unreasonable in thinking it’s so hard at hospitals to seek urgent care . The poor 5 yr old who was sent away with tonsil infection as no bed was available died .

Are antibiotics working?

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SilverSalver · 05/12/2022 15:22

Squiff70 · 05/12/2022 07:50

I posted earlier in this thread to say I believe I have strep A. I still believe that to be the case although no diagnosis has been made as the GP dismissed my concerns during a telephone consultation last Monday. She didn't even let me list all my symptoms. I did say at the time I was concerned about strep A but she said the treatment would be the same regardless. She prescribed Phenoxymethylpenicillin for what she called 'tonsillitis'. I'm on day 11, still very unwell and still having fevers. It is NOT just tonsillitis.

StrepA is commonly called toncillitis.
My adult DS had it two years ago. He had never had toncillitis as a child and so when the doctor diagnosed his illness as toncillitis I was surprised. he had had a run of viruses and this one went on for weeks. He was given antibiotics and then came out in a bright red rash all over his trunk and face. The doctor said he was allergic to the ABs and we didn't question it. However the rash lasted for weeks. I think in hindsight it was probably SF.

Gruffling · 05/12/2022 15:36

ofwarren · 02/12/2022 15:18

I wonder if these deaths are due to not being able to get medical care in time, rather than it being some weird strain of strep?

I've thought the same. The NHS is so overstretched. There have been times in the past year when my 3 year old has been worryingly sick and the GP would not see her in person. It often takes hours to get a callback from 111. I can easily imagine similar happening with these poor children.

Jenasaurus · 05/12/2022 16:38

My daughter has just been diagnosed with Strep A but has no tonsils, her throat is swollen and she aches all over. has a high temperature and flushed skin, she isnt a child though, she is 27 and a teacher so exposed, shes been given antibiotics and told to isolate for 48 hours.

Autumnmoonshines · 05/12/2022 17:34

@Jenasaurus ive had same and also no tonsils! The antibiotics kicked in within 24/36 hours. That was Friday. I feel so much better today.

Sallydimebar · 05/12/2022 19:38

Another primary school pupil believed to have died from Hampshire, taking number to 8 .

What number to we get too before this becomes serious I mean 1 is to many 😞

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lollipoprainbow · 05/12/2022 19:41

Yes I'm south east it's getting scarily closer.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 05/12/2022 19:49

Gruffling · 05/12/2022 15:36

I've thought the same. The NHS is so overstretched. There have been times in the past year when my 3 year old has been worryingly sick and the GP would not see her in person. It often takes hours to get a callback from 111. I can easily imagine similar happening with these poor children.

This is how it sounds to me. As though kids just aren’t being seen in time. Both hideously overstretched NHS and also perhaps parents not realising the signs as there’s been no public awareness of strep A, just Covid all the time for the past two years?

Cuppasoupmonster · 05/12/2022 19:51

8 in how many weeks? I can’t find a timeline. So sad. It makes me really angry the effect the last few years has had on our little kids.

Sallydimebar · 05/12/2022 19:53

Local report
One of our region's biggest hospitals
@boltonnhsft- is warning that it's under
extreme pressure - with large numbers of
seriously ill people coming through its
doors - and patients being cared for in
corridors.

Downing Street issued statement this afternoon “They are fully confident NHS can cope this winter “

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MissyB1 · 05/12/2022 20:04

The government are lying (again!!) The NHS will not cope because it can’t cope with the work it already has. It’s impossible to access urgent healthcare, it’s impossible to see GPs. There is no slack in the system, no room at the inn.

ofwarren · 05/12/2022 20:10

When does the nurse strike start?

Sallydimebar · 05/12/2022 20:21

I’ve lost all confidence!
My Aunty had a fall last night after using toilet . Her son rang Ambulance at 11:30pm was told there’s a 4 hour delay . They came at 6:30am , she has broke her hip .

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ofwarren · 05/12/2022 20:23

Sallydimebar · 05/12/2022 20:21

I’ve lost all confidence!
My Aunty had a fall last night after using toilet . Her son rang Ambulance at 11:30pm was told there’s a 4 hour delay . They came at 6:30am , she has broke her hip .

That's awful
I hope she's OK

colouringindoors · 05/12/2022 20:25

Sallydimebar · 05/12/2022 19:53

Local report
One of our region's biggest hospitals
@boltonnhsft- is warning that it's under
extreme pressure - with large numbers of
seriously ill people coming through its
doors - and patients being cared for in
corridors.

Downing Street issued statement this afternoon “They are fully confident NHS can cope this winter “

Bastards.

Sallydimebar · 05/12/2022 20:28

@ofwarren Up to 100,000 members will walk out at 65 NHS organisations on 15 and 20 December for 12 hours at a time. The strikes will take place between 8am and 8pm on both days.

Maternity services and A&E patients are among those that will face disruption when the nurses walk out, trust leaders have warned.Sick babies as well as cancer and dialysis patients will be among those “protected” from the action.

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ofwarren · 05/12/2022 20:29

Sallydimebar · 05/12/2022 20:28

@ofwarren Up to 100,000 members will walk out at 65 NHS organisations on 15 and 20 December for 12 hours at a time. The strikes will take place between 8am and 8pm on both days.

Maternity services and A&E patients are among those that will face disruption when the nurses walk out, trust leaders have warned.Sick babies as well as cancer and dialysis patients will be among those “protected” from the action.

Scary times

colouringindoors · 05/12/2022 20:29

There's been recognition for some time that a lot of additional deaths are due to NHS being in crisis - lack of staff, fewer beds, social care crisis... 12 years of Tories.

I think they're running it down so the general public will complain less when private health is brought in.

Garysmum · 05/12/2022 21:12

Sallydimebar · 05/12/2022 20:28

@ofwarren Up to 100,000 members will walk out at 65 NHS organisations on 15 and 20 December for 12 hours at a time. The strikes will take place between 8am and 8pm on both days.

Maternity services and A&E patients are among those that will face disruption when the nurses walk out, trust leaders have warned.Sick babies as well as cancer and dialysis patients will be among those “protected” from the action.

In light of recent events, I would like to think the strikes could be postponed until say April when hopefully there will be less winter bug pressure.
I can’t see how the strikes won’t result in deaths, which would have been prevented on a non strike day.
I absolutely support the right to strike and increased pay but fail to understand how this won’t have immediate fatsl
conSequences.

Jenasaurus · 05/12/2022 21:19

Autumnmoonshines · 05/12/2022 17:34

@Jenasaurus ive had same and also no tonsils! The antibiotics kicked in within 24/36 hours. That was Friday. I feel so much better today.

that's good to know, glad you're feeling better, my DD has been quite tearful today, she was calling out for me earlier as was cold despite the heating being on as her body ached so much she couldnt get up to get her heated throw, whatever their age your DC are still your babies x

Jenasaurus · 05/12/2022 21:20

lollipoprainbow · 05/12/2022 19:41

Yes I'm south east it's getting scarily closer.

We are South East and have cases in my DD school sadly

5min30min · 05/12/2022 21:25

We've just received notification that there's 2 scarlet fever cases in our school - it's a primary in East Midlands. Am I right in understanding that it's scarlet fever that causes strep A?

greenacrylicpaint · 05/12/2022 21:38

5min30min · 05/12/2022 21:25

We've just received notification that there's 2 scarlet fever cases in our school - it's a primary in East Midlands. Am I right in understanding that it's scarlet fever that causes strep A?

the other way round.
strep a can cause infections like sore throats and skin rash. scarlet fever is when strep a causes the whole organism is infected instead of 'just' unpleasant localised infections.

lifehappens12 · 05/12/2022 22:26

I think it is going to be a lottery of how well GPs are responding. I have two sons. About three years ago when my eldest was 18 months the GP saw him 3 times over a 2 week period as he had a viral throat infection with fever that just wouldn't go. I kept taking him back as the fevers were so bad and continuous. No antibiotics given.

This morning I took by youngest at 20 months with sore throat and a fever to the GP. Antibiotics given immediately as she said she was concerned with how much strep A was in the area. Waiting room at the doctors full of children.

So I do feel lucky that I got to see a GP same day and this practice is prescribing antibiotics quickly to be safe

ChristmasBree · 05/12/2022 23:04

I think what we are looking at is

  • Compromised immunity in children who have had Covid once or more in the last 8 months.
Parents don't seek or able to access medical care as:
  • We have been told that Covid, which largely presents with similar symptoms, e.g. bad sore throat, temperature, muscle ache, sometimes a rash, headaches, D&V is mostly harmless for children so we just let them ride to out
  • GPs have closed shop since the pandemic with barely any in person appointments available and we have all been primed to avoid going to the GP with ill children as they are allegedly vectors of disease.

I fear it's the huge barriers to accessing medical care as and when needed that's to blame for this situation.

MissyB1 · 06/12/2022 07:26

ChristmasBree · 05/12/2022 23:04

I think what we are looking at is

  • Compromised immunity in children who have had Covid once or more in the last 8 months.
Parents don't seek or able to access medical care as:
  • We have been told that Covid, which largely presents with similar symptoms, e.g. bad sore throat, temperature, muscle ache, sometimes a rash, headaches, D&V is mostly harmless for children so we just let them ride to out
  • GPs have closed shop since the pandemic with barely any in person appointments available and we have all been primed to avoid going to the GP with ill children as they are allegedly vectors of disease.

I fear it's the huge barriers to accessing medical care as and when needed that's to blame for this situation.

Yes, all of this.