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to not have a clue what to do about this baby's sleep?

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MarmeeMarch4 · 30/11/2022 05:50

My 18 month old will not sleep. She is my fourth. She is not the first I've had who is a light/tricky sleeper. My first was very similar- very strong-willed. We've tried everything at this point. Feeding and patting just don't have any effect- she'll literally feed for six hours non-stop and never drop off. She'll lie still if you pat her but even if you do it for three hours, the second you take your hand away she's awake. Co-sleeping doesn't work - we did it for 14 months but she is now just stimulated by our presence in the bed and is awake all night if I bring her in with me. We resorted to controlled crying as a last resort. We did this with my first at 18 months and it was tough but it worked. The other two we didn't do this with - they slowly settled into routines of their own. But with this baby it doesn't work. She literally pulled off all her sleep bags/pyjamas etc to get better traction on her feet so she could climb out of her cot. We had to put her in a bed with a stairgate at the door. She will cry for hours. I've tried gently cuddling/holding her in the bed so she has to relax and sleep. She did it once - then the second time just went wild until morning. Today she has been up since 3 again - her usual wake-up time - and I have had to give up. Whether I left her to cry or held her or fed her or gave her medicine it wouldn't matter. Nothing gets her to sleep. It's constant wake ups until 3, and then up.

She has a good nap - 2 hours 11.30-1.30. She has a good, consistent bedtime routine and goes to sleep at the start of the night by herself with minimal fuss. Sometimes she cries briefly but usually she reaches out to the bed, snuggles in and drops off. She is still breastfeeding and I am desperate to stop but she is like a newborn with it - we got it down to morning and night feeds about six weeks ago, but then she seemed to redouble her efforts. Yesterday I went to a friend's and literally fed her 9,30-11.30 unti she slept, then 1.30-3 when I had to go and do th school run. The whole way round the school run she was trying to open my coat for a feed. She cried the whole time I was making dinner and had to be appeased with TV and her sisters' massive efforts to entertain her. She fed for an hour before her bedtime routine. It just never ends.

I am struggling to get any work done. I am struggling even to leave her with anybody as she just cries for me. I'm terrified she has a deep attachment issue even though I was at home with her for 15 months, totally attachment parenting, and my return to work has been extremely gentle compared with the other three times. I am responsive, kind, nurturing. I am prepared to be tough if needed. But I am all out of ideas. We're all running on empty. I just don't know what the fuck to do. The health visitor says it's a moment in time. But I can't keep going like this.

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MolliciousIntent · 30/11/2022 12:23

Where's her dad in all this? If I were you I'd take a weekend away (maybe with your older kids) and leave her with her dad to break the cycle.

sjxoxo · 30/11/2022 12:26

This sounds hellish. You have my sympathies!! I would drop the breast feeding to twice a day, as much food as possible. I’d stop or reduce the naps and put to bed as late as possible.. best of luck to you xxxxx

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 30/11/2022 12:31

What about hiring someone to help you out?

Night nanny or sleep consultant of some kind?

MatildaTheCat · 30/11/2022 12:38

Have you had her checked by a doctor? I’d second the possibility of ear trouble or possible other reasons for pain. I’d also strongly consider giving up breastfeeding altogether if that’s her go to for sleep.

Somethingsnappy · 30/11/2022 12:49

userlotsanumbers · 30/11/2022 06:46

Pain.. Could she be in pain? Reflux that is soothed by constant trickle of breast milk going down the gullet, thus not allowing acid up the gullet, making everything hurt? If she lies down, it starts to hurt, so it wakes her up? I'd be thinking in terms of pain.

Absolutely this. I came on to say the same thing.

MarmeeMarch4 · 30/11/2022 21:00

MolliciousIntent · 30/11/2022 12:23

Where's her dad in all this? If I were you I'd take a weekend away (maybe with your older kids) and leave her with her dad to break the cycle.

Oh god don't worry he's in this too. He usually puts her down to break the breastfeeding/sleep association, and she does always go down better for him than me (she also doesn't mind him walking out of the room so much - when it's me she won't drop off as she's keeping one beady eye out in case I leave). He takes turns with me to go to her, and he gets up with her in the morning if I've had a long night feeding. That might be the only plan.

She napped today - she had to, she'd been up since 3! But I managed to keep her up until 8.30 and she was very calm - ate dinner (a little bit of pizza, some cucumber, a Custard Cream, and later some spaghetti hoops with cheese), and then I kept her distracted with lots of Christmas books we pulled out of the loft with the decs, a play in her older sister's room with some dollies (and climbing up a bed ladder), and then two baths (she pooed in both for goodness' sake, so I had to keep getting her out and disinfecting everything - but she was clearly very relaxed!). She is normally down between 6.30 and 7, so let's see if this shifts her body clock forward in any way. I fed her after the bath once she was in her PJs, then her dad took her for teeth cleaning and a lullaby, and she went down with zero fuss. Pray for me!

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MarmeeMarch4 · 30/11/2022 21:02

Somethingsnappy · 30/11/2022 12:49

Absolutely this. I came on to say the same thing.

Thank you - I'm going to go to the doc and get this checked. I did call the health visitor (as our doctor is bloody useless and always runs 2 hours behind and then basically gaslights you) and she was really reassuring but said she thought teething and just to wait it out. But she didn't see her. I think it's time to get her checked over.

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