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Considering divorcing my DH

23 replies

MrsT1704 · 29/11/2022 09:55

I would like some advice on my situation from an outsiders perspective. I am trying to be brief
but give enough context without outing myself to any family that may be on here.

I just need to know if IABU in this situation.

I have been in a relationship with DH for 13 years. 7 of those married.

We have DD11 and DS13. DS13 is not his biologically but he has brought him up since 6 months old and calls him dad.

DS also had ASD and mild learning disability (undiagnosed) and very violent behaviours which have always been present but escalated over the past 2 years.

I have been the one trying to source support. Services have been non existent and unfortunately our family have fallen apart.

We paid privately for a psychiatrist and he has medication now so much better but the cracks have started.

We are all low but DH recently become very low and said he was unhappy. When asked if it was our relationship he said yes and got very upset and said it was heartbreaking that we no longer have a relationship. It has been so hard to spend time together which our situation,

He told me he does not feel good enough that he can not reach my 'level' (by this he was referring to the strategies we need to use to support DS) and that he struggles to stay calm and also that he has never felt good enough for me. He said he messed up the relationship in the beginning of the relationship (I found text messages to multiple women when we were first together and also after our daughter was born but forgave him) - BTW not my best moment (looking at his phone) but I had an instinct and was very paranoid after my daughter was born due to postnatal depression and also having appendicitis and an operation which landed me in ICU. To be fair the first time I found out the girl messaged me to tell me. He has never confessed and got caught.

Now to present day. I have felt his disengagement for a while and I have been the same as my mood is low as aswell as struggling through supporting my son which I do all the research for, I also lost my dad last year and been sorting his estate, have long COVID since Dec 2020 and was a frontline worker in the pandemic which took its toll.

Then on Tuesday I came home to him with his head in his hands and saying he was fine. When I asked what is wrong he said I am not happy. I asked are you low in mood or not happy and he said not happy. I guessed it was about the relationship and he said yes that’s what it is. I can see it all over your face that you do not love me, your too good for me etc. said he has tested me to see if I give him a hug and kiss etc.

I was really confused and trying to support his low mood and see if we could try counselling etc but he said 'whats that going to do' ' do you really think that’s going to work'.

On top of this he also:

  • Did not have his wedding ring on - ' said is was because his finger was sore which does happen but he has never taken it off before'
  • Deleted all the pictures of us off facebook

I also did not think much of this in the moment but now I'm questioning the following because of history:

  • Last weekend he text me to say that he may go out with some people from work and and asked if I minded. I said I didn't but then he ended up coming home and was moping around and eventually it was 7 pm and he said he wasn't going out. I had had a really long day with the kids I'm so tired and had a relapse day so fell asleep really early. I have a vague memory of him waking me up about 9:30 to say that one of the guys from work rang him and he was going to go out as they had come from the town an hour away and were now local. He went out and come home at 1am ish. This was weird not thinking of it but I did not think anything of it in the moment and as I said I was so out of it unwell

Now because his mood has suddenly changed and because he has been brooding and moping around and not speaking I have had time to think and my suspicions have grown. To the point that I wanted to check his phone but I did not do this as I refuse to become that person again.

I told him out right what I felt and that as he has no way of proving this to me then unfortunately I think the trust has gone and it had resurfaced old trust issues. When I asked him if he could show me the call he had from one of the guys from work when they rang him he said 'it's not on there, no idea why'. Alarm bells going off in my head. And if I have to ask him then what does that say for our relationship.

In addition to this the following are reasons why I feel I am no longer in love with him:

  • I have been supporting my daughters mental health over the last year by spending time with her when she goes to bed as this is the time where it all catches up with her. She has trauma from her brothers violence and aggression and has some PTSD. Some nights I would just go and lay in her bed with her and be there for anything she wanted to say. When I first started to do this he said ' bugger that, I would never do that' he preferred to sit and watch TV
  • When DS was calm he would pre-empt stuff by saying for example 'he is going to kick off big time when we ask him to brush his teeth' and it would really agitate me that he would already assign a reaction to him and not be able to enjoy the peace while it lasted. In addition to this then DD would also start doing the same as she heard him doing it
  • Our daughter has a support worker who supports her and has been absolutely brilliant. Our daughter said to the support worker that she would like to spend more time with her dad and
he did take her out twice to an ice cream parlour but I made a point of saying to him that is also about small things and 10 minutes quality time just talking is just as good and that please don’t do one big thing and then not do It again. But he hasn't done it since and that was 6 months ago
  • The kids and I like simple things such as going out for a walk around the block in the evening or spending a bit of time watching family TV. He prefers to get the kids into bed and be able to sit down and watch the TV and cant stand them talking if we watch a film etc. The fact that he values that more Impacts the way I feel about him
  • I also feel that I do all the emotional support for the kids, all the mental load for sorting out stuff for school and appointments, half term etc

I feel so sad as I feel that this marriage is over and that the kids will be happier if we are apart and we can't drag this on.But I'm aware that I am not in a great mindset I need to make sure I make the right decision.

In addition to the above he has spent the last weekend moving from room to room feeling sorry for himself and I know he doesn't feel great but he just cannot make himself do stuff for the kids. I have also had a relapse in my fatigue levels and although he was meant to be off work today he still decided to go and that for me means that he can control his mood in someway but he's choosing not to so at home.

Please someone from a different perspective tell me what this looks like. I I think I want a divorce and for us to go our separate ways but I do not want to break my daughters heart until I know for sure but it just feels like a dealbreaker.

Also, if his mood is really low then I really do not want to send him over the edge by telling him that the reason I do not love him anymore is because of all of the above. I still care about him and don't want him to do anything stupid.

This is probably the longest am IABU, but am I?

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MrsT1704 · 29/11/2022 09:56

Hope no one I know reads this because its very likely they will know is me!

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DillyDallyDooo · 29/11/2022 10:02

The trust is gone, you are both just existing. Unless it's something you both want to work at and get some counselling then I'd say it's done :(

HilaryBriss · 29/11/2022 10:31

Wow, that was long and I didn't read it all but...

It doesn't sound like your husband wants to stay married either so I'm not sure why you would need to divorce him. Just agree amicably between you that the relationship is no longer working and split up.

Regularsizedrudy · 29/11/2022 10:37

I’m summary he has been unfaithful on and off throughout the relationship (even at times when you were really vulnerable) and is likely cheating on you right now. Yes I think you should get a divorce. He’s moping around because he can’t decide which woman to put his money on.

NotToBeShaked · 29/11/2022 10:38

It sounds pretty over to me, with the possibility that his head has been turned.

All the 'I'm not good enough for you' stuff, just makes me feel like in his eyes the relationship is over but he doesn't want to be the one who leaves. Its like he's making you miserable on purpose so you will end it.

When it gets to this the relationship is already over.

Hoppinggreen · 29/11/2022 10:39

He’s probably cheating, sorry

MrsT1704 · 29/11/2022 10:43

Thank you all. It confirms what I feel and that its been a long time coming and you are right we are just exisiting with neither of us being happy.

I have no evidence that anything has happened so its not on those grounds really its more that its come to an end amicably.

We will still have a good relationship for the kids. Thanks for some clarity and sorry for the lengthy post but also not sorry because it was carthartic!

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MrsT1704 · 29/11/2022 10:47

@NotToBeShaked this is what I think too. Which makes me angry because he is making the kids unhappy too.

The thing is that in the past I felt upset but I don't now so that tells me a lot in itself.

Im just going to try an amicable split with the biggest priority of putting the kids first no matter what

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MrsT1704 · 29/11/2022 10:49

@HilaryBriss Thats the thing though. We have agreed that and then he tries to kiss me and hug me and be really inappropriate. He then says he is confused (alarm bells again) and last night before sleeping says 'Just because you dont love me anymore doesnt mean I am not madly in love with you' mind games!

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Axolotlquestions · 29/11/2022 10:54

Hi attitude to the children is lazy and irresponsible. His attitude toward you is manipulative. I'd say you'll be better off without him.

Sparkletastic · 29/11/2022 10:55

Sounds like he's either having another affair or laying the groundwork for one and trying to make you feel like it's your and the DCs' faults. Disengage. Ask him to sleep elsewhere. Decide what to the tell the kids and do it so he can't keep rowing back.

AgentJohnson · 29/11/2022 11:01

Disengage from this immature entitled CF immediately.

MrsT1704 · 29/11/2022 11:04

I do think he likely has aspergers because he is so black and white but that does not excuse him to be the way he is.

I have a great relationship with his mum and she is aware of the situation as we originally thought it was a low mood. She is saying once he's on medication he will feel so much better and he will feel so bad that he has done this to you all etc etc I can't tell her the full story because it will break her heart.

We have a family trip planned for Saturday and it's been planned since March this year and he told me yesterday that he has not managed to get the day off. Our daughter was in tears's this morning. It breaks my heart. I wanted to plan to tell the children after Christmas and carry on with some sort of normal for the time being but I don't know if that's going to be possible. My priority will always be the kids though and protecting them. I will never say a bad word to the kids about him and just need to make this split as amicable as possible.

Next stop is to figure out if I can buy him out of the house! Or if we have to move. Its all so unsettling but I have found all your responses so helpful.

thank you

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peppapig79 · 29/11/2022 11:10

Is he on medication for MH?

StopStartStop · 29/11/2022 11:11

You sound like a wonderful, reasonable woman. You've made a sound decision about the marriage.

Sometimes, a person has to leave a depressive for the sake of their own health.
But... in your case - you've given us a run-down of a classic 'cheating' scenario, too.

Good luck to you and your children.

Mostmarriedcouple · 29/11/2022 11:15

To be honest you sound like an amazing woman, amazing parents, fair, thoughtful and strong. He sounds like a lousy, weak man. Honestly you deserve better. Id tell you to run and never look back

CarefreeMe · 29/11/2022 11:16

He has checked out of the relationship but is hoping you’ll officially end it so you can be the ‘bad guy’.

As you say you don’t want to drag it out and there’s potentially a peaceful break up here where you can both remain friends and there for the DCs but without the stress of putting on a show and forcing yourselves to stay together.

I would sit him down today and discuss how you can both amicably move forward and if he would be willing to move out so the DCs can stay and you will try and buy him out.

CarefreeMe · 29/11/2022 11:18

I would also tell him that you want to keep up appearances for the DCs for Christmas- it’s not fair to ruin their Christmas over this.

It will also give you both longer to sort out living arrangements etc.

But I do think you should start telling family members or friends so you have support.

Blewprint · 29/11/2022 11:21

You deserve better. Stop apologising for discovering his infidelity in the past. If you need to check to corroborate this again then do it for yourself, they're should be nothing to hide between a husband and wife.

What you've related sounds like every other story on here, the narrative a man concocts when he's checking out of a relationship and into bed with someone else.

Look after your children and look after yourself because he won't. Take care.

MrsT1704 · 29/11/2022 11:29

Thank you all. Will take the next month to discuss everything so we have all out facts when we speak to the kids in the new year.

I refuse to ruin their christmas and know he will drag himself around but I can not take responsibility for his actions. @peppapig79 he is on some antidepressants but as I said he is able to function at work which is high pressured so
I do not think its just that.

I have asked the family support worker for some support and meeting up this Thursday to chat and my family have been so supportive. I know we will be ok and athough I feel sad and its a bit of a rollercoater I also feel its the right thing to be. I am worried about what he may do but need to remind myself thats not on me but I will support him if his mental health deteriorates just not at the expense of mine.

I think that fact of the matter is we both feel the same but I would have liked to have gone about it a different way instead of these mind games and having to guess.

I cant thank you all enough. Feel so much
more clarity!

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peppapig79 · 29/11/2022 12:36

You both have hell of a lot going on. I think you both need support. You need to communicate to each other. Your DH would benefit from counselling and maybe yourself too x

MrsT1704 · 29/11/2022 13:25

@peppapig79 I definitley need counselling and am waiting for it. He will not accept it unfortunatley

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MrsT1704 · 01/12/2022 03:24

Update:

I was right, there was someone else involved. He would not show me his phone so went into our joint phone bill, found the frequent called number and rang it in fromt of him. He panicked and tried to come up with many excuses. Spoke to OW who said he had been giving her a lift for ages and helping her with her dad that is unwell and nothing else.

Marriage confirmed over and now he is having a mental health breakdown! Scary how in one week your life can change so dramatically. He had a 3 hour panic attack yesterday and is being so unreasonable and cant see he is unsafe to drive, go to work etc

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