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To be annoyed by Thanksgiving in the UK?

260 replies

talomon · 26/11/2022 08:40

Is it me or Thanksgiving is becoming quite widespread in the UK?

I studied in the states and live in central London, so maybe I am exposed to American people more than most, but I still feel many of my Brit and French friends and acquittances have started hosting Thanksgiving and treating it like a major holiday. Ten years ago it was quite obscure.

I mean I get that it's a nice occasion, and the food spread looks nice especially for social media, but still I am not sure I like it.

YANBU = Our culture is becoming to Americanized
YABU = It's a great holiday to celebrate

OP posts:
mathanxiety · 26/11/2022 17:28

@Flooper

Not necessarily an airhead, just very definitely rabidly anti American.

Onnabugeisha · 26/11/2022 17:32

Flooper · 26/11/2022 17:23

*And we don’t celebrate colonisation in the U.K. We recognise the evil of it. We don’t dress it up as a “family friendly holiday” or “harvest celebration”. We don’t have a Britannia Rules holiday where we all get together and give thanks for the Empire and it’s light of civilisation.&

Is this a joke? So many British people still speak about the Empire in glowing terms. But all you can see is Brits = decolonising goodies, Americans = baddies.

What an airhead you sound.

Yes some Brits are undoubtably of that ilk, but we don’t have a national holidays celebrating colonisation and genocide. Americans have TWO.

Im not saying Americans are bad/British good- this isn’t about people. It’s about Thanksgiving being a horrible holiday that is offensive to celebrate, in my opinion and that of many others.

I certainly don’t want the U.K. to start celebrating it.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 26/11/2022 17:33

I voted YABU, not because I think it is a great holiday to celebrate, but because I think it is unreasonable to complain about other people celebrating a holiday they want to celebrate. If Thanksgiving means something to them, why shouldn’t they celebrate it?

Onnabugeisha · 26/11/2022 17:33

mathanxiety · 26/11/2022 17:28

@Flooper

Not necessarily an airhead, just very definitely rabidly anti American.

Anti-Thanksgiving isn’t anti-American.

Onnabugeisha · 26/11/2022 17:37

mathanxiety · 26/11/2022 17:28

@Flooper

Not necessarily an airhead, just very definitely rabidly anti American.

So all these Americans are anti-American then? Because they refuse to celebrate Thanksgiving and view it as a National Day of Mourning?

To be annoyed by Thanksgiving in the UK?
mathanxiety · 26/11/2022 17:39

@Onnabugeisha

I didn't base my criticism on the fact that you were specifically anti Thanksgiving.

There are many other elements in your posts thst illustrate a very definite anti American bias.

magicscares · 26/11/2022 17:42

Only ppl I know celebrating it are Americans or with Americans in the fam. I’d enjoy being invited for dinner though.

LifeExperience · 26/11/2022 17:42

Sorry to mess up a good ol' MN America bashfest but Thanksgiving was established by President Abraham Lincoln In 1863, during the Civil War. It was to encourage a peaceful interlude in the middle of war.

The pilgrims and indian stuff was an addition of the media and the education system.

Onnabugeisha · 26/11/2022 17:44

mathanxiety · 26/11/2022 17:39

@Onnabugeisha

I didn't base my criticism on the fact that you were specifically anti Thanksgiving.

There are many other elements in your posts thst illustrate a very definite anti American bias.

I think you’ll find more posts of mine criticising the U.K. than the USA! No country is perfect, no sense pretending any of them are.

Onnabugeisha · 26/11/2022 17:47

LifeExperience · 26/11/2022 17:42

Sorry to mess up a good ol' MN America bashfest but Thanksgiving was established by President Abraham Lincoln In 1863, during the Civil War. It was to encourage a peaceful interlude in the middle of war.

The pilgrims and indian stuff was an addition of the media and the education system.

Exactly. Thanksgiving is a purely American holiday, invented by Americans and imbued with American mythology.

BackToWhereItAllBegan · 26/11/2022 17:49

Americans are not sitting around the Thanksgiving table giving thanks for genocide and colonialism, we generally give thanks for our family, friends, health etc.
Like many Holidays (looking at you Christmas!), it has evolved away from its traditional roots and is now generally a lovely day of good food spent with good friends, nothing more complicated than that!

TerrysNeapolitan · 26/11/2022 17:52

I've not heard of anyone celebrating it here in the UK but I'm up for any celebration that involves a roast LOL

lljkk · 26/11/2022 18:21

Honestly for most people it's a day to celebrate being off work, seeing family, lots of fine food. We dont' get many paid holidays.

MarshaMelrose · 26/11/2022 18:22

Is it me or Thanksgiving is becoming quite widespread in the UK?

It's you.

Oysterbabe · 26/11/2022 19:17

I was all for getting involved this year, I even made a traditional trifle, but no one ate any 😔

To be annoyed by Thanksgiving in the UK?
MarshaMelrose · 26/11/2022 19:20

😂😂😂 @Oysterbabe. No Joey at your party then?

Valeriekat · 26/11/2022 19:52

We celebrate Thanksgiving having lived in the US for 10 years and with many American friends, it is not for anyone who doesn't have a strong US connection.
The worst thing about it is that you then don't want to do Turkey for Christmas.

It used to be a lovely non-religious non-commercial celebration of family. Americans are very generous to those who are alone and Thanksgiving and we always had an invitation for the holiday.

It become far more politically contentious for various reasons and it is completely inappropriate for it to be celebrated by non Americans (or Canadians in October)

Chipsahoy · 26/11/2022 20:01

We do it! Dh is American as are children…

WonkasBooboofixer · 26/11/2022 20:07

Meh if it makes people happy let em crack on. Not great if you're a turkey but otherwise you do you

dreamingbohemian · 26/11/2022 22:24

Onnabugeisha · 26/11/2022 16:07

When I lived in the States, I’d wish Americans a “Happy Coloniser Day” 😏

Right back at ya!

Honestly, a Brit giving anyone a hard time about colonising 🙄

PaperDoves · 26/11/2022 22:25

dreamingbohemian · 26/11/2022 22:24

Right back at ya!

Honestly, a Brit giving anyone a hard time about colonising 🙄

Right?

IDidntKnowItWasAParty · 26/11/2022 22:33

I've never encountered anything to do with thanksgiving in the uk

underneaththeash · 26/11/2022 22:35

No, nothing here either - SE - home counties.

PrincessPoodle · 26/11/2022 22:35

She's made it clear that history isn't her strong suit.

mathanxiety · 26/11/2022 22:53

@Onnabugeisha
An equal opportunity curmudgeon then.