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111 safeguarding alert

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SEND2022 · 24/11/2022 20:04

DS has a head injury, rang 111 etc. 111 informed me they have alerted social services.

Is this really routine or AIBU for being worried?

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SpinningFloppa · 24/11/2022 20:05

No it’s not routine they must have had concerns

Cw112 · 24/11/2022 20:06

I think there's maybe a bit more context needed here? Is the head injury unexplained? Is your ds known already to ss or have they been in the past? How old is your ds? Do you suspect someone hit him to cause it?

LouLou198 · 24/11/2022 20:07

No I don't think so. This didn't happen to dd when I took her to A&E with a head injury.

Teadrinkingmumofone · 24/11/2022 20:07

How old is and what happened, happened before?

Ohmywhat · 24/11/2022 20:07

No it's not routine, must be concerning circumstances.

4thdegree · 24/11/2022 20:08

Not routine IME. Whatever you told them has made them concerned

BatshitBanshee · 24/11/2022 20:09

It's not routine AFAIK. How did he get the head injury.

SEND2022 · 24/11/2022 20:10

He was on a CIN plan about 18 months ago as part of his sister's disabilities but not known for safeguarding reasons.

He stumbled backwards over his feet and hit his head on the corner of a little table

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PorcupinePie · 24/11/2022 20:10

When my 1yo nephew fell off the bed and got concussion my brother and SIL called an ambulance and the paramedics (or the call handler?) alerted SS. They said it was routine in the context of a concussion. SS contacted DB and SIL by phone but we're satisfied that it was an accident. I wouldn't worry OP, unless you're aware of something that warrants worrying about, IYSWIM

BatshitBanshee · 24/11/2022 20:20

SEND2022 · 24/11/2022 20:10

He was on a CIN plan about 18 months ago as part of his sister's disabilities but not known for safeguarding reasons.

He stumbled backwards over his feet and hit his head on the corner of a little table

Did he pass out? What happened after he banged his head? That might be the crux of why they alerted SS.

SEND2022 · 24/11/2022 20:36

He didn't pass out.

Could it be because I didn't see it happen and he has his own learning difficulties and I had to rely on his sister to explain what had happened?

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LaughingCat · 24/11/2022 20:37

If he had a CIN plan, there’s a flag on his file. So yes, this is routine. The call handler can see that there is a note but can’t see his record to see what it is about - all it has is the name and contact details of his care team. They’ll put this to bed.

Hellocatshome · 24/11/2022 20:38

How old is he? Could it they were concerned he was left unattended. When DS was 2 and dislocated his elbow they informed SS as I didnt know how it had happened.

LaughingCat · 24/11/2022 20:39

For more info on the flag and how it’s handled: digital.nhs.uk/services/child-protection-information-sharing-service

ExtraOnions · 24/11/2022 20:39

It’s years ago now (DD is now 16) … but it happened to us, when she went to casualty with an injury - it had happened at nursery, so nothing came of it. This was our one and only interaction with SS

Amicompletelyinsane · 24/11/2022 20:43

My child poured got drink on themselves and had to go to a and e. We had a health visitor soon appear to check up on us. So they do Alert people

SpinningFloppa · 24/11/2022 20:49

Amicompletelyinsane · 24/11/2022 20:43

My child poured got drink on themselves and had to go to a and e. We had a health visitor soon appear to check up on us. So they do Alert people

My child poured a hot drink on her and no HV or SW ever contacted us

CarefreeMe · 24/11/2022 20:56

I’ve never had it with 111 but I had it with when I went to the gp once as I was worried about unexplained bruising and he sent me to A&E so one of them contacted SS.

Nothing ever came out of it though and they didn’t even ring me.

LIZS · 24/11/2022 20:59

Have you sought a medical opinion? Or just 111?

VeronicaFranklin · 24/11/2022 21:02

Yes it is routine and they are just notifying you, as they would if you took your DC to hospital with a broken arm. Most people probably don't realise that every time they take their children to hospital there is a safeguarding questionnaire done and if concerns it can be referred to a specialist team, it is to help keep a log of visits to hospital, assess the child's wellbeing etc.

Knitterandstitcher · 24/11/2022 21:23

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Cw112 · 24/11/2022 21:25

LaughingCat · 24/11/2022 20:37

If he had a CIN plan, there’s a flag on his file. So yes, this is routine. The call handler can see that there is a note but can’t see his record to see what it is about - all it has is the name and contact details of his care team. They’ll put this to bed.

This^ so it probably has been an automatic. They'll come chat to you about it, just be honest about what happened kids have bumps all the time and we don't have eyes in the backs of our heads.

Proteinpudding · 24/11/2022 21:55

The 'flag' being referred to in here (and linked to above) isn't correct. The flags/markers are for children on a child protection plan (or children on a care order)
No such thing for a CIN plan

As far as I'm aware there isn't anything automatic for CIN, but as children with disabilities, esp those with communication difficulties, are at an elevated risk of abuse, it may have been a discretionary reason to refer or a local policy. Eg in our area we have a higher than average rate of injuries caused by lack of supervision and so SS are routinely notified so they can offer support services such as early help - not necessarily to investigate a concern

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