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Need to switch baby from Hipp as it’s not going down well.
DC was on cow and gate (and was fine on it + infacol) but I found the ready made bottles had these white lumps in them, which they say it’s safe but I’m not comfortable giving him lumpy milk.
then switched to Hipp a week ago, following a transition of mixing formulas until he only had Hipp in the bottle. He drinks it fine but, since on Hipp only, seems hungrier, to have more wind, squirms a lot, is upset more after a feed, brings back up a lot more and it’s just the cheesiest smell when he does bring it back up. So I’m thinking we need to change formulas again.
I need to be able to have the option of the ready made bottles.
thinking of switching to SMA or kendamil, any advice?

We used Aptamil Profutura for DC when she was a baby - it is expensive but we never had any issues with it, and I seem to remember reading that out of most formula options it was the closest in composition to breastmilk. We were lucky and didn't have any reflux issues/allergies etc, so may be worth a try, and is also available as premixed.

They are all the same!! have to be made to the same formula to meet safety requirements. I have just spent days on training about this.
It is all an absolute con. None of them are a replica of breastmilk- including aptamil who have been called out many times on these claims.
You also can switch milk however often you like.

www.firststepsnutrition.org/infant-milks-overview

Agree completely with @Janedoe82.
First Formula is highly regulated so the content is v similar. It is also marketed in a v clever way; of course you want the absolute best for your baby so will pay for a 'premium' product. I remember when the Aldi milk was first on the market, the ingredients were compared and were identical to SMA. Babies won't have a consistent response/reaction to milk. Their digestive systems are sensitive - we all get wind and tummy ache.

There is lots of information on the link above- it is completely impartial. The formula milk companies are extremely sneaky in their marketing

I found kendamil excellent for my little one, and was happier that it had no fish or palm oil in it unlike all others.

OP two milk changes in one week probably isn’t the best idea. It’s more likely to be the change of milk rather than the Hipp that’s the problem, I would try and give it a bit longer. Did you speak to your midwife about changing his milk?

You can change milk whenever you like. This is a myth from the formula industry.

www.verywellfamily.com/mixing-baby-formula-brands-2634531

Have you tried Hipp Comfort?

I used a mixture but mainly Hipp. I think I used Aptamil when I couldn't get any Hipp

They all have the same nutrional values but you literally only have to look at the ingredients list to know they are not all the same the same.

My eldest was colicky, struggled to poo and refluxy on cow and gate, fine on hipp. Clearly the different ingredients play a part in how a baby reacts.

When we switched we were told to give it at least 2 weeks op to let their belly settle on the new milk.

This is not the advice of the World Health Organistion. Honestly it is ALL clever marketing. There is no evidence that formula makes babies have collick

Why don’t you go back to cow & gate but not the ready made one?

Aldi mamia for powder and aptamil for ready made as a combo

I have phrased that badly- cows milk can make babies have collick due to their immature digestive system but that will happen regardless of which formula used.

Well that's not what the medical professionals I spoke to regarding it said. And it also ignores the fact that the ingredients list is different therefore, they are different. And the difference in ingredients can mean one ingredient aggravates the immature digestive system while another does not. No one says its the formula causing colic but a specific ingredient might set it off for different babies.

Kendamil
Kendamil
Kendamil

That is all!

We use Kendamil and my daughter loves it. We switched from breast feeding to mostly formula feeding when I went back to work at 9 months and have had no issues.

There are a lot of badly informed GPs, midwives and Health Visitors in relation to infant feeding and a huge amount of time, money and effort is being spent trying to re educate them on the actual science of infant feeding.

Also OP, don't do a sudden switch - do a slow transition as their digestive system can revolt from the change rather than the milk (75% old brand and 25% new brand for a few days, then 50/50 for a few more, the 25/75 etc).

Also consider the temperature too, mine had more issues with fridge cold rather than room temp/warmed.

A lot of the issues are more to do with the type of bottle, how the baby is fed and the amount they are fed and what happens after as opposed to the actual formula.

My DS had the same painful wind on formula too. Funnily enough we tried Cow and Gate, Aptimil and Hipp Organic - all the available ready mixed ones and none of them suited him - wind was worst on Aptimil but the very cheesy smelling vomit worst on Hipp.

Never tried SMA or Kendamil, but I wonder if the Kendamil might have been better since I don't think it contains fish oil unlike the other brands and apparently some young babies are more sensitive to fish oil? I think Kendamil doesn't do a pre mixed version but if you are happy to mix, that's the one I'd personally give a go.

I was planning to try it next as I'd heard good things about Kendamil if a DC has mild unknown allergies (but not serious enough to be truly lactose or CMP intolerant etc) - but luckily my DS suddenly got the hang of breast feeding better and his wind eased a lot. I realise that part doesn't help you though, sorry! - although I think wind does tend to improve naturally too as the weeks go by (as their digestive system matures), so fingers crossed for you, hang in there!

Search pace bottle feeding and try that, it should help. It's likely your baby is drinking too much too fast. If that doesn't work and you're worried, contact your GP.

My daughter is on on cow and gate and has been fine but have friends who have used kendamil for their DC who haven't settled on other milks.

FWIW when my daughter was younger she struggled a bit more on the premade C&G whereas she was perfecltly fine with the powder, but as she got older she's been fine (as long as it's not cold from the fridge)