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AIBU?

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to try to get this man stopped?

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Reputationintatters · 22/11/2022 13:37

Name changed for this.

Sorry, this will be long, but I don’t want to drip-feed. I have an issue with an ex-colleague from years ago going around slagging me off, and I want to know if I should just leave it, or WIBU to try to make him stop.

I’ve always worked in the same industry in similar roles.

I’m now 3.5 years into my current role, and it’s going well.

The problem I’m having is with a guy from my previous company who has been regaling my current colleague(s) with colourful assassinations of my character.

The company where I worked with him was a start-up. I ran a specific department and I assumed that I had been brought in for my previous experience – there’s a general ‘model’ for how this sort of company is run and I am very familiar with it

Part of the role is being responsible for quality control. Everything that came out of my department had to reach a certain standard and if it didn’t I would be the one to blame. This meant that I needed to put certain processes in place and sometimes those processes needed to be followed by other people in the company whose input my dept depended on.

This is all fairly standard industry-wide stuff. If you think of it like a restaurant, I was a chef and relied on others to order the ingredients and communicate with the clientele or I couldn’t do my job and we’d all get bad reviews.

There was one person in particular who had never worked in a ’restaurant’ before. He was junior (first job) but very popular in the company and has since climbed the ranks. He loved to do things his own way, including coming into the ‘kitchen’ when I wasn’t around and getting the staff to cook stuff along the lines of his own vision. His ‘cooking’ wasn’t great – he’d had no training for it and it wasn’t part of his role – and it reflected badly on me as it came out of my department and ultimately would damage the ‘restaurant’s’ rep. I repeatedly tried to stop it. However this went down like a sack of the proverbial and I eventually got fired.

He had a lot of people on his side. They were almost all recruited as grads and none of them had any previous ‘restaurant’ experience. From their POV I must have just seemed grumpy / like a killjoy or worse. They wouldn’t have realised that in any other restaurant I’d be expected to do this stuff as it was my literal job – they had no outside experience and no way of knowing. Looking back I realise there would have been a general air of ‘who the hell does she think she is’. No doubt this festered for a few years (I was there for three) as I carried on in not very blissful ignorance.

Anyway. I was long-term freelance there so my sacking didn’t amount to much more than a “Don’t come in tomorrow, thanks.” No conversations or anything other than to say I was damaging to the culture. However, I do think that the owners of the company probably felt they ‘had’ to do it to avoid a mutiny, rather than objectively thinking I was a) wrong and b) an awful person. I get the impression they feel quite bad about what happened to me and did it for political reasons / a quiet life.

Now to my AIBU. Five years have gone by, so I was shocked to find out this this guy took one of my colleagues aside at a networking event last week (when he was drunk) and described in detail what a horrific human being he considers me to be. She is a new colleague too, which makes it even worse. She was brave to tell me about it and I feel sick thinking about how many others he may have said it all to before. Several of my colleagues were at the event, including my direct boss and the owner of the company. Losing my job and realising I was seen as a 'bad apple' was traumatic at the time and I’ve tried to put it behind me. But I feel like if he’s doing this five years on, it’s not over. Where will it end? It’s a small industry. I can’t run the risk of just ignoring it. He can just keep doing this to me, job after job.

WWYD? Email him? Contact his employers? Hardly a great ambassador for them after all now that he’s in a more senior role, so I’m wondering if they might help. Not that they did last time, but they might feel bad I suppose.

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Redebs · 22/11/2022 19:52

It might or might not be relevant in this situation, but some men really do resent being told what to do by women in the workplace.

It sounds like the problems that the company were having got loaded onto you?

If he agitated against you in the previous company, then the employer may have been forced to end your contract in order to keep the rest of the workers happy maybe?

He is now running around saying spiteful and unprofessional things, safe in the knowledge that you won't take him out into the car park to sort it out with a fist fight like lads!

One way to defeat his juvenile tactics is to ensure you have the respect of others you work with and make them aware of his unreasonable behaviour. Maintain dignity and professionalism at all times and let him squirm when no-one engages with his gossip.

Another option is to take it to HR. It depends if you trust them to handle it well.

The car park solution is risky, but could be very satisfying

By the way, why did he leave the previous company? Surely after you left it he should have been running the place? 😂

Reputationintatters · 22/11/2022 20:31

MayThe4th · 22/11/2022 19:15

I’d imagine there are probably three sides to this. His version, your version, and the truth which probably sits somewhere in the middle.

None of us know what actually happened, but if this man really was badly affected by what happened, then perhaps. He felt the need to say something. Personally I wouldn’t, and if I knew someone’ like that I would advise them against it, but he obviously feels differently.

Reality is that when you have a bad experience with someone it is often impossible to shake off the way they feel about you or the way it is going to show you up in future.

Obviously you and the employer were incompatible or they wouldn’t have let you go instead of him.

And let’s be honest, the reason why you are worried that people will believe what they hear is because you yourself take gossip seriously. You need to rethink that.

And let’s be honest, the reason why you are worried that people will believe what they hear is because you yourself take gossip seriously.

That's a leap. If someone I respect has worked directly with somebody and says in no uncertain terms that they are poisonous I will steer clear.

That's not gossip, it's someone's own opinion.

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Reputationintatters · 22/11/2022 20:41

Redebs · 22/11/2022 19:52

It might or might not be relevant in this situation, but some men really do resent being told what to do by women in the workplace.

It sounds like the problems that the company were having got loaded onto you?

If he agitated against you in the previous company, then the employer may have been forced to end your contract in order to keep the rest of the workers happy maybe?

He is now running around saying spiteful and unprofessional things, safe in the knowledge that you won't take him out into the car park to sort it out with a fist fight like lads!

One way to defeat his juvenile tactics is to ensure you have the respect of others you work with and make them aware of his unreasonable behaviour. Maintain dignity and professionalism at all times and let him squirm when no-one engages with his gossip.

Another option is to take it to HR. It depends if you trust them to handle it well.

The car park solution is risky, but could be very satisfying

By the way, why did he leave the previous company? Surely after you left it he should have been running the place? 😂

He's still there! He's never worked anywhere else.

And yes, he definitely agitated against me. What's incredible is that he would still be spouting so much bile after all this time. I'm long gone.

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Redebs · 22/11/2022 21:19

Oops, sorry, I thought he had joined your new company too. Me trying to multitask!
Not much you can do then realistically, other than trust your current colleagues' judgement.
You're right about it being odd that he's still going on about this years later, but I think maybe you struck a nerve with him and made him question himself, so that he's still not able to move on mentally.

Ummmmmbrella · 22/11/2022 21:40

You won’t be alone. He will be bad mouthing quite a few people, not just you and others (with more experience) will have his measure. It’s possible he might just be jealous of your performance, it’s likely he’s putting you down to make himself feel better

Ummmmmbrella · 22/11/2022 21:41

its very unprofessional, you do best to rise above the titter tatter and let your performance speak for you

HuntingHappiness · 22/11/2022 21:50

If he is now in a more senior role then, presumably, his style of cooking didn’t damage the restaurant’s reputation but it’s definitely best to leave it.

Fraaahnces · 22/11/2022 22:06

Maybe the company he’s been working for isn’t doing as well as everyone expected due to his “innovations” and they’re catching on. Perhaps he’s fishing for a new job because he knows that he’ll soon be in the wind with no reputation at all.

Elsiebear90 · 22/11/2022 22:16

He seems to have some kind of personal vendetta against you, but realistically there’s nothing you can about someone voicing an opinion about you no matter how horrible or unjustified it is. If he is that bad at his job word will get around and no one will take his opinion seriously. I would just briefly explain my side of the story without emotion to the person who told you what he said and then leave it at that. If you are good at your job they will likely believe you.

DatingDinosaur · 22/11/2022 23:03

Get a solicitor to send a cease and desist letter stating you will sue for slander, defamation of character and/or harassment and possibly loss of earnings if he continues.

It’s one thing for him to throw his weight around once a few years ago, but it should have stopped there. Him continuing to retell the story years later, to anyone who’ll listen, makes it a personal vendetta against you (even if it is only because he thinks it makes him sound like the big “I am”).

He is the one behaving unprofessionally and unless he can validate and justify why he is continuing to badmouth you and what he's hoping to achieve by doing this, he hasn’t got a leg to stand on.

It IS slander, regardless of why he’s doing it.

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