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In thinking that meal planning can’t be out of the ordinary?

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Fono · 21/11/2022 11:30

I’ve always operated a system within my household where I will sit down every Sunday morning and plan all of our meals (lunch and dinner) for the following week and then formulate my shopping list based on everything we need specifically for those meals. This means we have minimal wastage at the end of any given week, prevents over-buying and everyone knows exactly what we are eating and when.

I have a board in our kitchen where I’ll write up the meals for the week and recently every time I’ve had a visitor to the house I’m met with the same shocked reaction about meal planning, like it’s a completely foreign concept.

I’d never previously thought that I did anything out of the ordinary and I’d assumed most households did this? If not, I’m genuinely interested to know what other families do? Imo given the cost of living crisis, meal planning is more important than ever!

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Phrenologistsfinger · 21/11/2022 15:33

It’s a fun game, what do you need to use up that day and how can you make it into a tasty meal? I rarely use recipes anyway as I’m confident with flavours and improvisation (exDP was a chef).

BosaNova · 21/11/2022 15:33

I don't get why people don't get that someone plans and someone doesn't.
It is that fucking simple, no one is superior and any of the two can cook nice meals. Same with people who follow recipes and people who like to generally improvise.
🙄

"BuT Do YoU hAvE tHe RiGhT PotAtO" i have a potato, that is quite enough🤷🏻

swg1 · 21/11/2022 15:36

kitchenplans · 21/11/2022 15:19

See I get the bit about looking at what you have and saying "I've got peppers, onions and black beans - basis for Mexican." But I don't understand how you could have co-incidetally, without any thought or planning, just happened to have also bought fresh coriander, fresh chilli, a fresh lime, sour cream, avocado etc. So either lots of the essential ingredients are missing, or some sort of planning process is going on when you shop, albeit a loose, informal one.

I don't actually think the non planners cook shite (although surely there will be a subset who just do basics and convenience food). I think its more likely that most people put more effort into planning their meals and their shopping than they acknowledge.

For example, seeing a delicious looking aubergine and buying courgette/pepper/red onion etc to go with it thinking "I could cooking a nice mediterranean vegetable dish with that lot" is a loose form of planning. As is thinking "I fancy pasta this week, I'll make sure I pick up parmesan/pecorino, fresh lemon, fresh tomatoes, fresh basil etc".

If you're not putting any thought at all into what you're likely to cook and just chucking random stuff in the trolley then its inevitable that there will be food waste, poorly made dishes or the need for top up shops. I don't think many people do that though. They plan loosely in their head as they shop. It may not be rigid, it may not be written down, but it's still a plan.

I think you're thinking of most people as being more exact in recipes than they are!

I don't remember the last time I bought fresh herbs - they're incredibly expensive and don't last so I only do it when they're reduced. I have a few growing in the garden that I'll wander out to pick and otherwise it's dry/jarred/make do without. Chilli is jarred or there's chilli powder. I've only got fresh tomatoes in if they're reduced/in my veg box/the kids asked for them but I always have tinned tomatoes in. Sour cream and guac come in bottles - yes not as good but cheaper and they keep. If I don't have a red onion in I'll use an onion - maybe not as good but I always have onions.

I'm not badly off but frankly I cannot afford to buy exact fresh ingredients for every recipe. So we have a good store-cupboard in of basics and those are used as my building blocks to fill in the fresh ingredients I do have. There's a few fall-backs that I use constantly so those I do always try to keep in, either fresh or in the freezer - dried pasta, cream, grated cheese (mozzarella and cheddar), fresh mozzarella, bacon, bread, onions, broccoli or cauli, milk, bananas, eggs, potatoes, chicken thighs - those are our necessities that I will use over and over again. Everything else I use if I have it, make do if I don't.

BosaNova · 21/11/2022 15:37

DameHelena · 21/11/2022 15:30

Well, I don't feel like I need always to offer an exhaustive list of ingredients and accoutrements. No one in my house is going to kick off if I serve something involving black beans and peppers that omits sour cream or fresh chillis, or a curry that in the recipe has lentils but in my version has chick peas woe betide their arse if they do
Things like limes and avocado I always have in. And I buy those trays of fresh chillis and freeze them. Maybe the difference from a lot of people on here is that we live in a busy neighbourhood with lots of corner shops/greengrocers/supermarkets, and we all walk to and from work, or work from home, so it's trivial for one of us to pop to a shop or to go in on our way home from somewhere. I or someone else can always get fresh coriander, or lime pickle if we've run out, or e.g. sausages if I've got corn on the cob and tomatoes in and decide to roast them and add meat.

I think you're defining 'meal planning' loosely, which is fine; but what this thread is really talking about (the OP anyway) is planning in the way she does it, with a pre-planned shopping list and a board. People like me aren't saying we either shop for every meal from a standing start, or throw together arbitrary things just because we've got them in the house. We're just saying we don't do one shop and plan in advance exactly what we'll cook from it.

I do wonder if that difference in here is as well about stocking up. Like some people don't have herbs, spices and basics generally at home it seems so it's a different style of shopping to someone who has lots of basics.
Again, no one is wrong, just different styles of shopping and stocking up.
I could get the mlst ridiculous Chopped (fun show) basket and still manage to make meals out of it, because I have so strong base stock levels, anything can find flavour and texture friends.

DameHelena · 21/11/2022 15:42

BosaNova · 21/11/2022 15:37

I do wonder if that difference in here is as well about stocking up. Like some people don't have herbs, spices and basics generally at home it seems so it's a different style of shopping to someone who has lots of basics.
Again, no one is wrong, just different styles of shopping and stocking up.
I could get the mlst ridiculous Chopped (fun show) basket and still manage to make meals out of it, because I have so strong base stock levels, anything can find flavour and texture friends.

I think so. I've always had a stock of herbs and spices at home, because obviously you buy quite a big jar or bag compared to how much you use at a time. Then in the pandemic, when you couldn't go shopping much, I started, not bulk-buying exactly, but buying several 4-packs of tomatoes or lots of chickpeas, or jars of anchovies, where I'd previously buy one. I realised it worked really well and I've kept it up. It has made cooking easier and more relaxed.

swg1 · 21/11/2022 15:45

I think it helps to have a few base things that your family will always eat as well that use up ingredients.

If my oven is on I usually use the bottom shelf for a rice pudding. I always always have pudding rice in and it's great for using up extra milk. My kids love it.

Or if I have bread on the turn and eggs to use up I make a bread and jam pudding (like bread and butter but my kids dislike dried fruit).

If I'm kneedeep in eggs (my friends have chickens) then I usually have a few baking mixes I pick up cheap and allow the kids to use them with minimal supervision to make cake.

DarkMatternix · 21/11/2022 15:48

I think I've only ever known one family ever plan to the degree you've suggested.

And yes, i do just buy some fresh ingredients each week and then decide what to do with it, minced beef can become burgers, spaghetti bolognese, beef tacos, cottage pie etc. Chicken may end up as fajitas, chicken goujons, curry, stir fry, tagine. Most of these things require the same sort of fresh ingredients, e.g. onion/pepper and other things would either be from the pantry (i.e. tinned tomatoes), from the garden depending on time of year, or from the freezer.

Admittedly, i do end up sometimes googling "alternatives for...." but normally works out ok, e.g. most recently was using some miso paste with water instead of worcestershire sauce in a cottage pie. That sort of thing definitely saves me money over buying exactly what i need for a recipe.

BosaNova · 21/11/2022 15:48

DameHelena · 21/11/2022 15:42

I think so. I've always had a stock of herbs and spices at home, because obviously you buy quite a big jar or bag compared to how much you use at a time. Then in the pandemic, when you couldn't go shopping much, I started, not bulk-buying exactly, but buying several 4-packs of tomatoes or lots of chickpeas, or jars of anchovies, where I'd previously buy one. I realised it worked really well and I've kept it up. It has made cooking easier and more relaxed.

It does, doesn't it! I am often undecided until just before meal so having basics is a must. Improptu "shakshuka" (and now I fancy it!) for example is basically just house staples.
Tinned tomato, eggs, bread, onion, garlic, chili. Spice to your heart desire. But it's a lovely throw together without needing shopping for it dish since it's just general cupboard staples.

DameHelena · 21/11/2022 15:51

BosaNova · 21/11/2022 15:48

It does, doesn't it! I am often undecided until just before meal so having basics is a must. Improptu "shakshuka" (and now I fancy it!) for example is basically just house staples.
Tinned tomato, eggs, bread, onion, garlic, chili. Spice to your heart desire. But it's a lovely throw together without needing shopping for it dish since it's just general cupboard staples.

One thing I have done in the past but must do more regularly is chop and freeze onion, garlic, ginger, lemongrass etc in bulk. Makes such a difference if you don't have to go and buy new, or skin and chop them all, before you start cooking proper.

UsingChangeofName · 21/11/2022 15:51

Bit tricky to know which way to vote, as clearly you aren't unreasonable to plan that tightly if it suits you and your family, but equally clearly YABVU to think that most other people are that anal rigid in planning their eating.

I've asked a few people, after hearing of meal planning on MN, and I've never met anyone that does it to that extent.
I think many people - with families particularly - will plan to some extent ("Oh, the Grandparents are coming over on Sunday so we'll have a roast then, and there isn't much time on Tue because of that activity starting so early so that will be a beans on toast night, then I haven't got much time on Friday so I'll double the bolognaise I make on Wed and people can use that as a base with some wraps or pasta or something when we get in). However, recording every single meal for the week without any flexibility sounds a bit more than most people need to do, or find helpful.

DarkMatternix · 21/11/2022 15:52

Improptu "shakshuka" (and now I fancy it!) for example is basically just house staples.

Me too, alas the egg shortage has reached these parts and not a single egg to be had in the supermarket at the weekend

BosaNova · 21/11/2022 15:54

DameHelena · 21/11/2022 15:51

One thing I have done in the past but must do more regularly is chop and freeze onion, garlic, ginger, lemongrass etc in bulk. Makes such a difference if you don't have to go and buy new, or skin and chop them all, before you start cooking proper.

Absolutely! Highly recommended. I have special box in a freezer designated for these bits (another for herbs). Grill some of the chillies as well. Really great to add flavour. I also have squares of roasted garlic in there. When I have something in the iven, I put few cloves in a small tray to roast, squish it out and freeze. Again, great flavour within seconds then😁

BosaNova · 21/11/2022 15:56

DarkMatternix · 21/11/2022 15:52

Improptu "shakshuka" (and now I fancy it!) for example is basically just house staples.

Me too, alas the egg shortage has reached these parts and not a single egg to be had in the supermarket at the weekend

Noooo way. Lucky we have some. Saw some in lidl yesterday and world supermarket.
Gotta get my stock in from costco before they go!

DameHelena · 21/11/2022 15:57

BosaNova · 21/11/2022 15:54

Absolutely! Highly recommended. I have special box in a freezer designated for these bits (another for herbs). Grill some of the chillies as well. Really great to add flavour. I also have squares of roasted garlic in there. When I have something in the iven, I put few cloves in a small tray to roast, squish it out and freeze. Again, great flavour within seconds then😁

Hadn't thought about roasting and freezing garlic! That's genius.
On a similar subject, is it possible to freeze fresh herbs and for them to come out nice enough to use as fresh? They're probably the major wasted item in my house; the corner shops near me sell them in such big bunches I don't have a hope of using them all before they go off, and I've failed miserably at growing my own.
Sorry, derail I know.

KirstenBlest · 21/11/2022 15:58

@Suprima , but you have in some way planned to have the ingredients.
I meal plan in that I make a huge batch of food at the weekend, then freeze portions, and shop so that the basics are there for a variety of quick nourishing meals can be cooked if necessary.
Each day, there is some choice, and I'm ok with making substitutions if necessary if I cook. I don't really bother with recipes.

@BosaNova, I grow veg and herbs too, so there will usually be something I can nip out into the garden to add to whatever I'm cooking

BosaNova · 21/11/2022 16:01

DameHelena · 21/11/2022 15:57

Hadn't thought about roasting and freezing garlic! That's genius.
On a similar subject, is it possible to freeze fresh herbs and for them to come out nice enough to use as fresh? They're probably the major wasted item in my house; the corner shops near me sell them in such big bunches I don't have a hope of using them all before they go off, and I've failed miserably at growing my own.
Sorry, derail I know.

Thank you kindly😁

Chives and rosemary hold up well, but parsley basil etc will go soft. I just finely chop them so it's not an issue. Thyme did ok!
You can also dry them on radiators if dried work better for you.

Beeboppy · 21/11/2022 16:02

I do - it helps with buying ingredients for creating multiple meals which helps me save money and cut down on waste - but then we are a small family plus we like to cook. If you were eating mainly ready meals etc then this may be less useful. The lunch plan on the fridge also helps people grab their lunches and leave the things needed for evening meals.

WindUpPenguin · 21/11/2022 16:03

I do meal plan but I tend to write them in a note on my phone rather than a board. I would have thought that was normal for most people but I might be wrong!

Fono · 21/11/2022 16:11

ComtesseDeSpair · 21/11/2022 12:03

We shop every day (supermarket is on the route home from work so it’s not difficult) and buy the ingredients for what we fancy eating that day. We don’t meal plan because we can’t always guarantee that we’ll always be home in time to cook a dish with e.g. an hour cooking time on the Wednesday it was planned for, or home in time for cooking at all on some other days. We’d waste so much food if we had a rigid meal plan so I presume you can only really meal plan as you do if one of you is a SAHP and / or you have jobs where you can always leave dead on 5pm etc? Or everything has very short cooking times and little prep?

We are both full time workers and all of our meals are made from scratch, but we are home based predominantly. We will usually have a mix of quicker and lengthier meals to cook, meaning we can always swap a meal for a different day if work overruns or evening plans come up.

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DameHelena · 21/11/2022 16:13

BosaNova · 21/11/2022 16:01

Thank you kindly😁

Chives and rosemary hold up well, but parsley basil etc will go soft. I just finely chop them so it's not an issue. Thyme did ok!
You can also dry them on radiators if dried work better for you.

I probably use soft herbs more. I tend to chop them roughly but my DP is a fine-chopping sort of person; maybe I can get him to chop them all and then freeze them. I might miss the rougher-chopped thing though.

thelobsterquadrille · 21/11/2022 16:15

We don't meal plan but we also don't have children to worry about.

Mylakk · 21/11/2022 16:23

Most people I know meal plan - and I am envious of them!

I don't due to DH. He is very fussy (will only eat the same few foods and then complain he is bored with them) and even if he does agree to a plan he will change his mind on the day. Neither me nor DS (now 18) wants to eat what DH wants to eat all the time. DH also either works from home or is away overnight/back late and this can change with very little notice - same was DS. I've given up trying. Sometimes I have the same meal as DS, sometimes the same as DH, occasionally we all have the same meal, often we have three separate meals at three different times. It isn't good and I don't recommend it.

QuietYou · 21/11/2022 16:36

SleeplessInEngland · 21/11/2022 15:31

Recently started meal planning and wish I'd done it ages ago. I find thinking of what to eat every single evening genuinely wearisome.

I'm the opposite, I find doing it it all at once is exhausting and far more manageable to decide on the day.
The stress of what happens if the plan needs to change is gone.
We eat a much more varied diet when I don't plan, I stick to a handful of meals when I plan as I struggle to think beyond family favourites.

DameHelena · 21/11/2022 16:58

Mylakk · 21/11/2022 16:23

Most people I know meal plan - and I am envious of them!

I don't due to DH. He is very fussy (will only eat the same few foods and then complain he is bored with them) and even if he does agree to a plan he will change his mind on the day. Neither me nor DS (now 18) wants to eat what DH wants to eat all the time. DH also either works from home or is away overnight/back late and this can change with very little notice - same was DS. I've given up trying. Sometimes I have the same meal as DS, sometimes the same as DH, occasionally we all have the same meal, often we have three separate meals at three different times. It isn't good and I don't recommend it.

If he's going to be fussy I would suggest to him that he makes his own dinner.

DecsAreUp · 21/11/2022 17:01

I meal plan for an entire year at a time.
I write down a months worth of different meals and then work down the list each month for a year.
That way we only ever eat the same meal 12 times a year a month apart and then I switch it up for the following year. I've done this for years and it's written on the fridge so everyone knows what we're having and my weekly shop is that weeks meals.

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