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To think town centres have become much more antisocial

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User923081 · 20/11/2022 08:42

I haven't been to out to our city centre for a couple of years and it's even more years since I've been 'out out'. I was pretty saddened today. I went with my DH to a restaurant. We took the bus and at the back of the bus there was 2 young men blatantly dealing weed. We decided it was too risky to directly challenge it but we did mention it to the bus driver as we got off and they basically shrugged and said there was no point telling the police. This was at around 5pm!

After our meal in a busy shopping centre we then saw another bunch of lads harrasing a man who was screaming at them to 'F off' This was at around 7pm and just as we were heading out of the shopping centre. We then passed a young girl loudly proclaiming that she 'needed a dealer'

It's 10 years since I was a student. I did most of my going 'out out' in a different city to where I live now. Of course I'm not naive. I know what goes on and I've seen plenty of people smashed out of their faces and minor fights. However, this just felt really 'different' somehow. It's hard to verbalise even when explaining the events as above but there was a sense of real hostility and I felt genuinely quite unsafe. I never felt like this in my student days. And this was at a time of night when we could easily have had our dd with us. Was I just unlucky? Am I becoming more risk averse as I get older? Or is antisocial behaviour (and I suspect associated gang mentality) becoming a bigger problem. I know these were on the surface quite minor incidents but the whole atmosphere was just quite ominous and made me worried and sad. Someone please reassure me that I'm just becoming a sad old fart 🤣

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Idratherbepaddleboarding · 20/11/2022 08:45

Don’t forget all the XL bullies dragging their owners along on loose gold chains and the elective scooters zipping through the pad Eaton’s only town centre.

maranella · 20/11/2022 08:46

Unless you live somewhere really rough it sounds like you got unlucky to have three such encounters in such a short space of time. But yeah, Saturday night in the town/city centre you do sometimes encounter unpleasant scenes - people who are drunk and lairy, people who are off their faces, drug deals going on, people shouting obsenities at one another. Is it worse than it used to be? I dunno. Maybe someone who goes out regularly at night can comment.

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 20/11/2022 08:46

No idea where all of those extra words came from, I haven’t had nearly enough sleep!

gogohmm · 20/11/2022 08:51

We go into our local city sometimes on a Saturday and haven't noticed any change, drunk and disorderly behaviour isn't common but after 10/11 I've seen it, never seen open dealing of drugs. Our last bus is 10.45 so we miss the worst of the behaviour I suspect. It's a pretty large city so whilst affluent in parts has a rough underbelly, I don't go to those parts unless for a specific reason eg the dentist

BosaNova · 20/11/2022 08:52

This was normal 15 years ago where I lived.
Kids dealing, don't say a thing or you will get stabbed, smoking weed on buses,
It did get more aggressive in some areas now though, you are not completely wrong.
There are places I would not go to party now, but 6 streets away is perfectly fine until 5am🤷🏻

SoapMactavish · 20/11/2022 08:53

When I was a student over 20 years ago there were people dealing and smoking weed on the bus.

There's always been these types of problems. But when there was more money floating around it was easier to hide it. There were more shops, bars and restaurants open, they were busier with 'nice' people. Now everything is shut down, all that's left are the undesirables.

My mum complains about more rough sleepers in the city centre where she lives. The homeless shelter got shutdown last year. There's always been homeless people. They just don't have any where to go now. All of the shops have shut down now so no one is moving them along from shop doors anymore.

AriettyHomily · 20/11/2022 08:54

I want to say yabu but I get where you are coming from. In our town centre yesterday it was a shitty atmosphere. Affluent home counties if it makes a difference. There were a lot more visible police, haven't been for years. Knobheads in McD throwing sweets at people,

Primrose98 · 20/11/2022 09:02

I don't stay in the town centre beyond 3pm on a Saturday - The last time I was out a little later than that I witnessed a street brawl where 3 men were seriously injured. It is a shame because I don't want to stop enjoying my amazing city and all it has to offer - but the anxiety after that event lasted months, and I read the local news regularly and it may not represent the real risk but it seems as if there is ALWAYS antisocial behaviour going on. I think the police/nhs are bloody amazing to deal with this every week.

MrsSlavere · 20/11/2022 09:08

Yes, definitely.

I live in Cambridge, which I guess people see as a "naice" town.

Yesterday a teenager was stabbed to death in one of the town parks. Parts of the centre are horrible at night, I don't like walking around by myself. Big drug problems in a couple of central areas.

Vomit and rubbish everywhere weekend mornings, even outside of "freshers" or ball times of year.

User923081 · 20/11/2022 09:40

It honestly just felt really uncomfortable. The events as one offs I know sound quite typical and I probably sound a bit precious. However, it was just the general atmosphere that felt really ominous and antisocial and I was shocked by it especially so early in the evening. I suspect a lot of it is actually lack of police presence (didn't see a single copper whilst out) but they're so underfunded like every other public resource that I don't really think they can be blamed.I guess I'll just have to avoid being in our town centre at night if I don't like it.

Oh and something else I didn't add in response to pp. I was almost hit by one of those bloody electric scooters about 3 times too. They're a menace 🤣

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