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AIBU?

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To think kissing someone without their consent isn't a joke?

5 replies

yalobop750 · 19/11/2022 14:48

DD has a small friend group of 5 girls including her, and 1 boy. They're all 16/17 but the boy in question is 16, let's call him C.

They all went to one of the girls houses yesterday including DDs boyfriend. They were drinking but weren't drunk according to DD. Today, she told me C was kissing the her friends and then tried to kiss DD, she told him no but he kissed her anyway. Her bf confronted him and he said it was a joke and caused an argument and was playing the victim.

The girls who's house it was told DD and her bf to leave as bf was winding C up, one of the girls agreed with DD and her bf but the rest agreed with C that it was a joke

AIBU in thinking that this isn't a joke? And wibu to tell his mum or wouldn't you at their ages?

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xsquared · 19/11/2022 15:06

No, definitely not a joke. That is the line that bullies and perpetrators say when you call them out on their shitty behaviour. I know this term has been bandies about a lot, but it is gaslighting amd DARVO, because to them they were just playing and your dd was the one in the wrong.

Tell the parent and let them know that your dd, her bf and you are not at all happy with this sort of behaviour and how she's been treated for standing up to him. That little creep needs to know now or he'll do it again to somebody else in the future.

It's no wonder why women don't get taken serious reporting sexual harassment and assault.

Princessglittery · 19/11/2022 15:32

She said no, that should have been the end of it.

What is disappointing and also concerning are her female friends responses. Your DD should consider talking to them about consent and asking them how far would they have let C go with her saying no before they supported her I.e. where is their line on sexual assault and rape?

WeeOrcadian · 19/11/2022 15:40

"no" means no. Where is the line?

I'd absolutely tell the parents, this isn't right.

Dontaskdontget · 19/11/2022 16:13

Well according the Rape Crisis charity, an unwanted kiss is sexual assault.

rapecrisis.org.uk/get-informed/types-of-sexual-violence/what-is-sexual-assault/

I would absolutely tell the guy’s mum, she needs to know what she’s raised. Crap parenting is the root of this, I’ve been extremely clear with my son about consent and sexual assault, clearly this boy’s mother (and school) have done a rubbish job.

I would also raise it with the boy’s school and ask if they can do a special assembly on consent and the law as they have at least one pupil who thinks sexual assault is a joke.

Onlyforcake · 19/11/2022 17:03

This mother's boundary issues don't need to be this groups. It's not a joke, it's appalling. Get involved, don't et this be z brushed under the carpet situation. He's a sleaze

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