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To think that austerity will hit the south the hardest this time ?

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Effiebriest · 16/11/2022 22:28

Most research suggests that the North and its cities were hit the worst by austerity.
www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jan/28/deprived-northern-regions-worst-hit-by-uk-austerity-study-finds
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/north-south-divide-tory-austerity-conservatives-government-cameron-recession-a8667666.html
www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/austerity-cuts-twice-as-deep-in-england-as-rest-of-britain
www.localgov.co.uk/Englands-poorest-areas-hit-hardest-by-austerity/54120
Looking at my local town there is nothing left to cut. Anecdotal maybe but we lost 5 out of 15 libraries during austerity, well used ones as we are a fairly deprived town and not everyone has access to PCs. Last year our council was due to make £35 million pounds in cuts with the loss of a hundred jobs. Austerity never stopped but
apparently it's starting all over again. I really cannot comprehend how yet more services in our delapidated little town can be cut. Anyone think that Sunak and Hunt will have to move on to the more prosperous home counties as many places up here have already been squeezed financially dry and just don't have the same resilience.

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AntlerRose · 18/11/2022 19:19

FancyFanny · 18/11/2022 18:06

Well, it's hard to imagine that as many of the children in schools in Surrey are as disadvantaged as children in schools in cities like Bradford, Leeds, Sheffield, Wakefield etc. and there are the really poor areas in many of the towns- places like Dewsbury, Batley, Rotherham etc. Of course, much of Yorkshire is not deprived and is very wealthy- especially North Yorkshire, but compared to Surrey, which is the wealthiest area of the country, it's needs are far greater.

Luckily the more deprived areas you mention do recieve a lot more funding than the Yorkshire average and the Surrey average. It is right more deprived areas get more money and those deprived areas are closer to London average.
London does get more funding stilk under the new formula, but the funding formula has lots of odd rural v urban things in it too.

TomTraubertsBlues · 18/11/2022 19:24

So the most deprived areas in Yorkshire still don't get as much as the London average? That's not great, is it?

AntlerRose · 18/11/2022 19:33

TomTraubertsBlues · 18/11/2022 19:24

So the most deprived areas in Yorkshire still don't get as much as the London average? That's not great, is it?

You have to look it up authority by authority. So Leeds Central gets more than Lewisham but not as much as Hackney.
Its not great London gets more, but London is not 'the south' lots of the south get less than london. Deprived people struggle wherever they are. Even really rich Surrey has deprived people and they arent having money thrown at them because they are in the south.

WrongWayApricot · 19/11/2022 16:00

FancyFanny · 18/11/2022 15:32

www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/eu_referendum/results

How are these results showing The North voted leave and The South voted remain? Plenty in the north voted to remain as they did all over the country, but the there were ever so slightly more voters for leave. Wherever you live there are almost half the people who wanted to remain. But everybody is suffering everywhere because of their votes. It's not a case of northerners dropping the rest of the country and themselves in the shit!

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Yeah some South places like Kent had more leave votes but I believe generally there was a North/South divide and an in/out of cities divide too. If you looked at the graphs I don't know how you couldn't see it?

To think that austerity will hit the south the hardest this time ?
To think that austerity will hit the south the hardest this time ?
TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 25/02/2023 21:10

The Tories have been in charge for 13 years. In 2019 Northerners voted for them in their droves, essentially saying "thank you - more of the same please". There is plenty of things left for them to cut - don't you worry.

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 25/02/2023 21:13

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 25/02/2023 21:10

The Tories have been in charge for 13 years. In 2019 Northerners voted for them in their droves, essentially saying "thank you - more of the same please". There is plenty of things left for them to cut - don't you worry.

Not as many droves as down south. We still have the remains of a red wall here in the north!

Tiredalwaystired · 25/02/2023 22:59

London is mostly red.

Untitledsquatboulder · 25/02/2023 23:02

Phrenologistsfinger · 17/11/2022 00:30

The south is not a homogenous rich people zone, it houses massive areas of deprivation too. The contrasts may be more stark which causes its own issues.

Yeah, lucky us to not know what we are missing. Hmm

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