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55k cost to raise a child to school age?

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User135792468 · 15/11/2022 21:44

Is this a realistic amount? Current debate with Dh as we’re debating if we can afford another dc. The cost of living is biting and with previous Dc, we didn’t really plan financially as (very luckily), we didn’t need to as we absorbed the cost.

Breakdown as follows:

  • 15k loss of earnings during mat leave (different for everyone but based on difference between part time earnings and mat pay)
  • 25k - childcare 3 days a week from age 1 to starting school (will vary based on birth month)
  • 15k - everything else (nappies, wipes, formula, clothes, equipment)

I would say this is a very conservative amount as for some families it could be much more with working parents but for some it would be less as a sahp (loss of potential earnings still applies though).

Please let know your thoughts on the amount and if you would say more or less, how you calculated it and the breakdown.

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Q2C4 · 16/11/2022 16:12

User135792468 · 15/11/2022 22:46

Thanks for the replies. To answer a few questions and comments.

We wouldn’t have any additional housing or car cost.

The mat leave figure is the difference between my mat leave pay and salary. We wouldn’t be entitled to child benefit.

It would be dc 3 - there are things that could be reused but things are looking worn now they have been used by 2 dc. Clothing would depend on gender and season. Plus toys, books etc.

I calculated the childcare based on our current nursery fees, taking into account the different price per age and then deducting tax free childcare and then the reduced cost when 30 hours kicks in. We also only need childcare in term time for 3 days a week. For those saying it’s high, that is the minimum cost without taking into consideration fee increases which are inevitable.

The 15k includes everything from prams, bedroom furniture, day to costs, nappies, wipes, formula, car seats and every other thing going. I think 3k a year is very conservative and is easily surpassed.

To those wondering why we’re having the conversation, dh is saying that for a third baby, he wants to plan financially and have the childcare costs and mat leave salary difference in additional savings before baby is born so these aren’t taken out of salary. He is basically saying that he doesn’t want our lifestyle to change as he doesn’t think it’s fair to our current dc and he enjoys nice holidays, days out etc. Our day to day costs will naturally go up with an additional family member. It’s hard as I do understand where he’s coming from but I don’t look at it so clinically. He’s a planner, I’m more of a, it’ll be fine kind of person.

Re the £15k budget, I can see how things could add up if you bought everything new but you can get some very good quality furniture / clothing etc second hand via eg eBay, Facebook market place. My local FB freebay page is very handy! That's the one part of your budget I think you could flex.

RedWingBoots · 16/11/2022 16:33

15k loss of earnings during mat leave (different for everyone but based on difference between part time earnings and mat pay)

Would you not get a pay rise?

25k - childcare 3 days a week from age 1 to starting school (will vary based on birth month)

Under estimate in London and SE? Also even outside these areas childcare providers are putting up their fees to cover the increase in energy and food costs. So that cost is unpredictable.

15k - everything else (nappies, wipes, formula, clothes, equipment)
That's 3K per year. As it is your 3rd child you would spend less as you would reuse clothes and equipment. Also depending on whether your friends have finished their families they may give you items they can't sell on plus as PPs said you can get second hand stuff.

DragonMovie · 16/11/2022 16:36

Jealous of your childcare costs!! It’s almost exactly half mine

DragonMovie · 16/11/2022 16:38

I think this is a strange way to think about the affordability of a child though. surely you don’t pay for them as a lump sum? Wouldn’t it be better to calculate a. Can you afford mat leave and b. Can you afford the monthly cost once back at work. Plus considering aside from that whether you need a new car (can’t get 3 car seats in a standard car) and whether you need to move. Overall cost until school age isn’t that useful surely?

LBFseBrom · 16/11/2022 17:01

I suppose it is expensive but we don't pay it out all at once. Does it matter?

Having children is a choice, most of us like it and don't count the cost.

trying29 · 16/11/2022 17:06

That wouldn’t cover it in SE London. I calculated with our first born full time nursery for him alone was 55k

BelleMarionette · 16/11/2022 20:02

Given this is only 3 days a week of nursery, what daily rate are you using? In my nursery, this would be free once a child turns 3 other than food costs, due to the 30 free hours.

While the equipment cost is very high, I would add a separate 'entertainment' cost. Admission to places on days out, activities etc. This can be reasonably significant depending on the family.

Kite22 · 16/11/2022 21:04

DragonMovie · 16/11/2022 16:38

I think this is a strange way to think about the affordability of a child though. surely you don’t pay for them as a lump sum? Wouldn’t it be better to calculate a. Can you afford mat leave and b. Can you afford the monthly cost once back at work. Plus considering aside from that whether you need a new car (can’t get 3 car seats in a standard car) and whether you need to move. Overall cost until school age isn’t that useful surely?

I agree.
Surely any "affordability test" is about if you can afford the extra costs incurred each month, not some plucked from the air total of how much more you will be paying out over a number of years.
If you want to know how much a child costs you until they stop costing you anything, I've got news for you, you will need to be thinking about 25 years rather than 5. But it is just such an odd way to look at a decision that is surely also about love and family and the whole emotional side, not a purely financial thing.

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