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New Political party

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Findwen · 12/11/2022 13:38

Watched an interview with one of the 'Just Stop Oil' crowd, whilst the earnest demonstrator was clearly zealous the arguments they presented seemed painfully naive. One of the things they said was that they didn't know any other good ways to promote the cause, have seen the same argument on here.

When the Green party was pointed to - they said that it has been tried and failed and the climate emergency is just too important.

Made me think there is space for a new single issue party. The problem with the Green party is that it is not necessarily for actions to prevent greenhouse gases. That is - if we want everyone to have electric cars powered by solar panels, then that means a lot of mining and damage to local ecosystems which the greens would be against, especially if for example the new cobalt mines would end some endangered species. There are other trade offs such as wind turbines vs birds and bats.
Voting Green also gets you a lot of social justice issues that you may not agree with their solution.

So wouldn't a new single issue party be a better answer than the protests ER, Insulate Britain and now Just Stop Oil do ? Their actions have failed to bring about the change they want or enough supporters to make politicians pay attention - so perhaps it is time to pivot to something more effective ? A party who will consider environmental concerns to be mush lesser than carbon and methane concerns:
Wind turbines wherever is best regardless of bats and birds
Dig reservoirs to make water 'batteries' to store power regardless of rare mammals habitat or regard to historical sites
Solar panels brought regardless of country of origin or harms to the land where the raw materials are mined.
Nuclear power as a transitional step and backup for the intermittency problem regardless of cost per MWH.
and so on.

Harms should be minimised of course, but considerd very secondary concerns.

Social justice issues should never appear on the manifesto as they are so divisive.

If climate change is as serious as those protest it is - surely it is time to do all of this regardless of the damage to the environment. Win at the ballot box on a single issue.

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pointythings · 12/11/2022 13:40

Having any new party under the current electoral system is utterly pointless. A hardcore green party would probably find a following in the UK, but only if we moved to full proportional representation.

Keyansier · 12/11/2022 13:55

This was a very long and rambling post. I couldn't be bothered to read all of it.

From the gist of it, a new political party would be a good idea, yes.

Haffiana · 12/11/2022 13:57

No. Anyone who voted for a 'single issue party' would need their bloody head examining.

SerendipityJane · 12/11/2022 14:18

All a new political party would do is prolong the permatory rule we've enjoyed this century.

Fix the ones we have. By not voting by rosette.

Ofcourseshecan · 08/12/2022 08:59

Interesting thoughts,OP. The Green Party should be taking that role, but it’s captured by student-age identity politics. Terrible waste.

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