Joys of living next to people

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Do people really move houses late at night? New neighbours started to move in and have woken my son up lots already. Music on full lots of shouting etc. I do get people might have to move after work etc.

the last people who lived there were also a nightmare didn’t last more than six months. The landlord Doesn’t care and seems to just let anyone move in who has the benefits to cover payments.

I did go around and ask them to turn music down at 10.35pm. So not a great start happy to be told I shouldn’t have. But I’m so bloody tired my sons been unwell (multiple hospital admissions in past week). When he gets upset it triggers struggles with his breathing and needing inhalers. He normally sleeps 13/14 hours at night with no issues and has done since 6 months old. The fireworks didn’t wake him up if that helps show how loud the music was. Or should I say is as they had turned it back on after 20 minutes.

Am I out of line asking again for it to go off?
or would it not annoy you?

You sound very entitled. No it's not against the law or frowned upon for people to move house late at night, nor is it astonishing. It's quite embarrassing on your part that you're trying to make a big deal out of it, tbh! I'm sorry about your son but he is not your neighbours problem. I think you need to get over it.

How do you know they are on benefits?

Of course it's not OK to have loud music and shouting at night. Show me someone who thinks it is and I'll show you an antisocial neighbour

The owner said - I’m not judging anyone on benefits they said they brought the place and only take people who get benefits paid so they know they get the rent.

You need to be proactive to prevent the music from being a regular occurrence, record the noise and put a complaint in with the landlord/council

let’s be honest, in an ideal world no one wants to move home at 11pm-midnight. You don’t know what the situation is there so I’d give the benefit of the doubt for moving noise, but they don’t need to blast out music

That’s fine that’s your view.

my other issues is if it’s the same as before has an impact on my work. I work on call at night so imagine if your a person needing help and calling a person for that help when in crisis (
and you mainly hear the background noises. and as it’s hard to hear what is being said you can miss something which could place someone at significant harm. (This happened with last neighbours the noise part) so I ended up not covering out to hours work which I can’t get out of again as it’s my contracted work.

You actually think it's acceptable to have very loud music playing at almost midnight? I feel sorry for your neighbours.

bit judgy OP. I understand politely asking them to turn their music for a sick and tired child. Think most people would do that or am I super naive

people have busy lives and move in all sorts of times of the day (took me and HM two weeks to move into our house).

their financial situation is non of your business or for you to stick your nose up at them. I am with you for wanting your child to get some sleep. Op, how is your DS now ?

The owner said - I’m not judging anyone on benefits they said they brought the place and only take people who get benefits paid so they know they get the rent.

This seems unusual? I'm no expert but from what I've read here and elsewhere recently due to high demand for rental properties landlords are being extremely picky and declining anybody on benefits; taking people with large deposits, months of rent up front and sparkly credit ratings, often with a guarantor as well. Even for run down properties. It just seems odd that a landlord would choose to take a tenant who is less likely to be able to pay, in that climate?

Sorry to hear your son has been so unwell.

Moving in late they may have had no choice in. Playing loud music late at night - particularly if your property is not detached - is very antisocial, however.

I don’t mean it was I meant by it sorry I’m so tired and have really bad hg sickness. Last issues with previous tenants tried to talk to the landlord and he said he didn’t care as he got the money by benefits and as long as he’s paid he doesn’t care who lives in one of his properties.

I guess prior to that we had really quiet neighbours who lived here for years. In a village setting most people are long term residents / home owners.

he’s now asleep in my room as it’s the furthest away room in the property.

Had six months of hell prior to this with environmental health etc involved. Just don’t want to have to go through all that again (I don’t normally ever ask people to do anything etc but just thought if I let them know how thin the walls are).

Sounds horrible. I hope you can both sleep now, and maybe once the neighbours have settled in they'll be better. Moving is stressful!

You are judging the new tenants based on the old tenants though. You seem friendly with the landlord, contact them and inform them about the noise? They could then contact the tenants and tell them to stop now.

Think of your long term options, including potentially moving yourself.

Also just wanted to add that benefits don’t really cover rental costs. The money people get from benefits from housing is capped so the landlord might not be getting guaranteed rent from benefit claimants as they likely have to top it up

Oh Op I’m so sorry. Can you use white noise to help block the sounds out? I hope you feel better soon, from what I’ve heard HG is horrendous. Is it possible to consider moving? Maybe adding some fabric insulation to absorb the noises?

I think it depends as housing legislation is about to change and section 21 notices etc means from next year even if a person doesn’t pay any rent, they can still legally stay in the property for four months before the courts can act.

So if you don’t have to worry about a Morgage etc and know the rents paid by housing benefits that covers what your asking.

there is also a fund in my area via a local charity which covers the deposit part for very low income families or people fleeing abuse (which I’m not saying that they have).

but yep most friends I know who are desperate for rented housing can’t find anywhere or can’t afford high deposits.

This. It’s a constant worry I won’t be able to pay my half of the rent or my bills :(

No the landlord didn’t do anything at all last time that’s why environmental health stepped in.

I own my property and in this market I’m stuck if I sell how the market is I can’t get a property anywhere locally. Properties in villages don’t come up often. And there’s no way I could ever afford to live in my local city as house prices as similar to London. Can’t move away due to work / childcare / care responsibilities.

The moving in late at night, fine. The music and shouting, inconsiderate and rude. Was it the new tenants or the delivery people (if they used a company) who were playing the music? Hopefully it was a one off and they are usually much quieter at night.

They're being very selfish. I hope it's a one off. Noisy neighbours are so stressful.

It was the actual tenants.

it’s gone quiet now well after midnight so I’m really hoping a one off

Lol are you the neighbour?!

No, just someone that can see how ridiculous the OP sounds.

I do personally think that 10:35 was late to have loud (assuming OP isn't exaggerating) music playing, however, it is none of the neighbours concern, consideration or care that OP's son sleeps for 14 hours at a time and needs inhalers because he struggles with breathing. People can move into a home whatever time they want to for what suits them.