To ask what you do if you earn £18-22 per hour?

[pokeball]

£18-£22 per hour is about £35-40k per year.

If this is your hourly rate can I ask what you do?

I have a feeling there will be a whole spectrum of jobs from shop supervisor to cleaner to call centre to teacher to nurse.

Purely asking out of curiosity to see the range and possibly the education level you'd need to earn this. Maybe say if you have a degree or not.

I was in this bracket a few years ago when I was a senior social worker (£37k per year). I have a degree, plus a Masters in Social Work and became a senior social worker after several years at a main grade level.

I'm now earning more as I've moved into a more senior position in Adult Social.

@pokeball you would just multiply the earnings by 48 weeks rather than 52. If a cleaner earns £20ph:

£20 x 30hrs x 48 weeks = £28,800

Minus your tax/NI/expenses.

Ah yes! Maths isn't my strong point!

university researcher, scientist, academic.

Mainly Because I want flexitime.
We almost all have PhDs.

Nanny.

Close protection officer - average day rate between £500 - £700.

Work on the side as a self employed private investigator, charging £65 per hour.

I have a degree in law, but it’s not used.

I don’t have a degree and I am a project manager

But that is just for working 39 weeks is it not. A cleaner would likely be working around 48 weeks a year. No sick pay, no holiday pay, no pension, paying for fuel between jobs and no chance of progression.
You can’t compare.

Ok, so say a gardener or cleaner charges £20 per hour.

they are unlikely to be able to work all the hours 9-5, as often it will be 2 hours here, pack up, drive, 2 hours at next job. If you work hard and juggle well you might land large gardens who need a full day every week, but those are rare.

so if I work 5 days a week, maybe 2 full day 8 hrs gardens and 6 part day gardens at 3 hours each, and a half day for admin. You’ve got a max of 34 hours to bill in the week. 34 x £20 = £680.

I can’t work 52 weeks a year, I’d like holiday time, so if we take out 6 weeks that’s 46 weeks to work in the year, £680 x 46 = £31,280

Out of that I have to buy all tools and gloves, kit etc. £1000 (low because I don’t use big tools on the whole. Insurance £100. Website £200. Advertising I barely need as it’s word of mouth. So net profit call it £30,000

NI cat 2: £163
NI Cat 4: £1760
Tax: £34860
pension: £2400 (probably need to up this)

take home £22,000 - If it doesn’t rain for weeks on end, or get too cold to work. Which it does. I probably loose about 6 weeks a year to weather. If I get flu or whatever I get no pay.

Of course every self employed person will have different expenses. I run two businesses as self employed, the other one has expenses of £20k a year. I charge a lot more per hour to cover that.

Are there really doctors earning only £17 p/h?

I’m guessing the average junior doctor is working a lot more than 37hrs a week so the hourly rate works out very poorly

There's a certain amount of ego involved with degrees and things a lot of people don't realise.

People think that you graduate and you're set for life... no, you still have to start at a low salary and work your way up. My first salary was £24k after leaving uni with BSc, MSc, PhD, and two postdocs. All my friends thought we'd be earning loads with degrees but we had no experience! Employers would choose an experienced, less qualified person than an intellectual work-virgin any day of the week.

The difference is that the JUMPS are higher. So those saying doctors above have it hard... they do... for now. Then those salaries skyrocket.

Some creative work, some consultancy/training stuff.
I don't work full time as I couldn't cope with doing that, but I would say I need to earn £40k to live reasonably (in SE but not expensive part) and luckily I can just about earn that with what I do.

My Hourly rate is significantly higher than this alas a private tutor but I only work part time (around 18 hours a week). 2 degrees and a PGCE - and a lot of experience

I was on the equivalent of £18 an hour as a document controller with a Limited company.

Wow, you're rude!!

Mental Health Nurse

Junior doctor.

Tattooist

There are absolutely doctors on six figure salaries, but far fewer of them than you would assume listening to the media, you’re absolutely right!

And of bloody course, there is absolutely a disadvantage to women in medicine who choose to have children, have to work less than full
time, or have to take time out of training and/or return to non-training roles for one reason or another. It can take YEARS to get past £50k, never mind getting anywhere near £100k.

I for one, thanks to my chosen path will never, in my whole career, earn 6 figures. I spend my day detecting and diagnosing cancers, and breaking the news to patients, amongst other things. I earn significantly less than the nurses who do a similar aligned role, but without the additional pressure of prescribing, and also being the point of reference for any questions about anything outside our fairly narrow sub-specialty area which may affect patient care, of which there is plenty.

I qualified 8 years ago. And I am still earning less than the hourly rate of literally every tradesman who has passed through my house in the last year, sometimes less than a third. Should have been a plumber…

Sorry, that wasn’t clear - I mean I earn significantly less than they do, but I also prescribe and answer all the questions! For the record, I absolutely do not begrudge them their greater salary, at all!! They have worked for years to get there. And nurses pay in general is a shitshow.

www.bma.org.uk/pay-and-contracts/pay/junior-doctors-pay-scales/pay-scales-for-junior-doctors-in-england

People generally think doctors earn far more than we do. People in real life have been shocked when I say how much I earn, and on Mumsnet have accused me of lying. The pay is pretty poor, especially considering the cost of living in London and the abysmal London weighting, the student debt we start with and the lack of any workplace perks eg parking at hospital sites is often over £100/month. Junior doctors are also rotated between hospitals over large geographical areas, necessating either multiple moves or expensive travel.

I didn't go into medicine for money, but given the real terms pay cuts, and having a family to support, it does make me question my career choice.

As a Nanny I made way more than this hourly- plus bed and board, use of car
As a nurse I make considerably less, with a degree.
I work as a nurse as it fits around caring for my elderly parents whilst dreaming of the lifestyle nannying affords